Поздравляю харьковчан! Сегодня ровно 3 года, как Нацгвардия предотвратила создание ХНР. А то в Харькове было бы, как в Донецке и Луганске
22:16 07.04.2017
Енот (Енот) писал(а) в ответ на :
> Вот у путинцев есть понимание чего они хотят - Асад президент и точка. А что у США я не совсем понимаю, они воюют и с исламистами и с асадовцами, поддерживают и турок и курдов. Если бы у Белого Дома была конкретная политика по Сирии я бы понимал зачем это все, может ты мне объяснишь, как человек несомненно лучше разбирающийся в американской политике, в том числе внешней, чего добивается Вашингтон?
Влияния. Так же как и путин. Но закон джунглей гласит: сильный жрет слабого. Обама оказался слишком травоядным силачем - путин сел ему на голову и свесил ножки.
В конце концов это всем надоело, и вове дали в рыло. И правильно сделали.
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>> Вот у путинцев есть понимание чего они хотят - Асад президент и точка. А что у США я не совсем понимаю, они воюют и с исламистами и с асадовцами, поддерживают и турок и курдов. Если бы у Белого Дома была конкретная политика по Сирии я бы понимал зачем это все, может ты мне объяснишь, как человек несомненно лучше разбирающийся в американской политике, в том числе внешней, чего добивается Вашингтон?
>Влияния. > Так же как и путин. > Но закон джунглей гласит: сильный жрет слабого. > Обама оказался слишком травояден - путин сел ему на голову и свесил ножки.
> > В конце концов это всем надоело и вове дали в рыло. > И правильно сделали.
Чего-чего а влияния Штатам не отбавлять, они же не Путин,которому надо все и всем доказать плюс еще для внутреннего потребителя сыграть?
00:23 08.04.2017
Енот (Енот) писал(а) в ответ на :
> Чего-чего а влияния Штатам не отбавлять, они же не Путин,которому надо все и всем доказать плюс еще для внутреннего потребителя сыграть?
Насчет влияния Штатов - спорный вопрос. Обама своей нерешительностью очень сильно подпортил имидж Мирового Жандарма. В результате повылазили моськи вроде Ына с Дутерте, Чавеса с Мадурой, Эрдогана с Асадом, ну и вова путин туда же - многополярный мир ему подавай с персональной сферой влияния, а иначе - жизнь не жизнь. Так что приход в Штатах кого-то в стиле Трампа было неизбежно - вряд ли бы западные элиты смирились с нахальными голожопыми омегами претендующими на статус не по чину. Показательную профилактическую порку устроить было просто необходимо. Что сегодня и сделали. Моськи получили хороший урок. И уже начинают всё правильно понимать. Эрдоган аж кипятком зафонтанировал от подобострастного восторга от Америки. А ведь совсем ещё недавно пальцы перед Обамой гнул, какие-то условия ставил. Так что всё закономерно. Другой вопрос что Трамп всё же не самый лучший, как по мне, лидер Америки. Западу бы сейчас кого-то более серьезного, предсказуемого, чтоб мог сплотить элиты и повести мир за собой к нормальным, хорошим, правильным идеалам. Но.... В любом случае решительные республиканцы более правильный выбор в этой ситуации, чем вечно сомневающиеся демократы. А то, что за нахальных мартышек взялись - это хорошо. Задолбали они со своими альтернативными проектами мироустройства. ЗЫ. А вот вова путин - лоханулся, да. Есть такое правило - никогда не начинай то, что не сможешь закончить. Вова начал передел мира при вечно рефлексирующих ботанах и думал что так будет всегда. А тут хлоп - и декорации резко сменились...
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> > Спасибо. Это дети с родственниками отдыхают, мы с мужем работаем - как всегда. > > Кстати ЮК полностью поддерживает аттаку Трампа и ничего нелегетимного в этом нет. Я ты знаешь - вообще не могла смотреть кадры эти с детьми, которых Assad gassed with chemical weapons. Это мразь последняя - этот Асад. > Смешно смотреть как форумные “патриоты“ выкручиваются теперь. Пропаганда им напела что Трампнаш . А оказалось нет. Я вам всем давно уже говорю друзья -all is not as it seems . > Кстати - вот почитай > > Commentary: US strike was targeted, proportionate and in line with UN protocols > > In the small hours of this morning 59 Tomahawk medium range land attack missiles, each carrying about 1,000 pounds of high explosive were launched by two US destroyers in the Mediterranean at Syria’s Sheyrat air base. > > It was from there that the US and Britain now believe repeated air attacks were launched last Monday dropping chemical weapons on the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun. > > At least 100 died there, including children in their beds. Follow-up attacks bombed the hospital in which victims of the first raid were being treated. > > First reports from the Governor of Homs, where the Sheyrat is situated, say that at least six Syrian soldiers were killed in the overnight Tomahawk strike and civilians injured. > > Some 14 warplanes, aircraft shelters and fuel dumps have been destroyed. The US military had given prior warning to Russia so they could get their military personnel out of harm’s way. > > Russia’s official spokesman has denounced President Trump for an “act of aggression against a sovereign nation and member of the UN.” Commentators on state radio has said that the Trump administration had undermined the campaign against international terrorism, and had been doing the work of ISIS and al Qaeda for them. One went so far that as to say that the raid had been planned ‘in collusion with Israel.’ > > Trump said that he had ordered the attack after Syria’s “horrible chemical weapons attack on innocent civilians. Assad choked out the lives of helpless men, women and children. It was a slow and brutal death for so many … No child of God should ever such horror.” > > However, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the strike was a one-off. “I would not in any way attempt to extrapolate that to a change in our policy or posture relative to our military activities in Syria today,” he explained. > > The strike remains the most high profile outside intervention in Syria’s six-year civil conflict, which has taken the lives of nearly half a million and displaced over 11 million – more than half the Syrian population. When Assad’s artillery fired rockets with chemical warheads into the Gouta district of greater Damascus killing 231 on 21 August 2013, President Obama warned that Damascus had crossed a red line. > > Yet he did nothing – deterred by a vote against the Cameron government using military action. Trump did not bother to seek assent from allies or Congress. He didn’t need to. Following the US and British climb down in August 2013, the UN Security Council unanimously passed Resolution 2118, to remove and destroy Syria’s chemical stockpile. Syria also signed, stating it would not use chemical weapons. > > Since then the Damascus junta has used chemical weapons several times, mostly by dropping chlorine in barrels from helicopters. This happened in Hamas last month. In Khan Sheikhoun they appear to have dropped barrels and rockets containing Sarin, a difficult and deadly agent to handlers and victims alike. The signs of children foaming from the mouth, ears and nostrils are recognized symptoms of the use of the gas. > > The use of chemical and biological weapons is banned under the Geneva Protocol of 1993, which is an update of protocols of 1925 based on the use of gas in the Frist World War. America could claim to act in supporting both the Chemical Warfare Convention – or CWC, which Syria signed – as well as the UN Security Council Resolution 2118. > > The US administration has stated again that it is not seeking regime change in Damascus. The actions of the past 24 hours do show, however, that Washington sees no future role for Assad in the long term. He is seen very much the problem and not a possible broker for peace in Syria, as Trump suggested during the presidential campaign. > > Assad now poses an acute dilemma for his two principal allies, Russia and Iran. Both were seeking to scale back their military support, now that the second city, Aleppo, had been battered into submission. But on the ground Syria’s military appears exhausted after six years of fighting, its roster of equipment from artillery to personnel carriers severely run down. > > Today Putin’s forces are overcommitted across three theatres, Ukraine and the Baltics, interior homeland security, and Syria. Even its much-hyped air defence and ground missile systems such as the S-300 and S-400, both deployed to Syria, appear not as effective as advertised. After all the 59 cruise missiles got through, the Russian electronic command and control seems susceptible to jamming from the US carrier fleets. >
> The US administration has been careful to stress that it has reacted effectively, with limited focus targets, and proportionately – within the parameters of international law and convention. In the same vein, President Clinton launched Tomahawk attacks in 1998 against al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Sudan, and later against Iraq. The pretext was terrorist attacks on US Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and Saddam’s breech of ceasefire and no fly agreements from 1991. > > Then, as now, the US president said the raid were not aiming at regime change in 1998. Yet some three years later the Taliban regime in Kabul was gone, in just under five years later Saddam fled Baghdad.
Больше всего меня радует что блеф Путина который проходил при Обаме не прошел при Трампе.Я думаю в кремле сейчас срочно переписывают сценарии по Сирии на менее амбициозные.Им было ясно показано что если надо-их мнение никого не волнует.И они это проглотили не задействовав ПВО.А куда бы они делись?Если бы были задействованы Рос. ПВО они бы автоматом стали целями (на выяснения кто стреляет попросту не хватит минут.А на подавление хватит.) А это было бы прямое боестолкновение США-РФ. И Путин разумно не стал этого делать ,впрочем, показав всему миру что все его комплексы в Сирии не больше чем понты.Не прокатило...... Вот такая вот звонкая оплеуха от "Ставленника Путина" Трампа)))
02:18 08.04.2017
Енот (Енот) писал(а) в ответ на :
> War, war never changes... (c)
Да....к сожалению....Такова природа человека.Ты не сможешь назвать ни одной черты человека (хорошей или плохой) которая появилась или исчезла бы за весь период времени пока человечество существует.Ни одной. Ничего не меняется кроме тех. обеспечения. И поэтому когда кремлеботы кричат "А почему США можно,а РФ нельзя??" у меня возникает вопрос,они от природы идиоты или на публику работают?
Слава Богу что человечество стало более цивилизованным и сумело (в большинстве) создать некие международные договоренности чтобы не было беспредела.Эти договоренности-единственная на сегодня гарантия не наступления всемирного хаоса.И тех кто эти договоренности нарушает-надо бить сразу и нещадно.Что Путина с Крымом что Асада с химоружием потому что это является искушением для других жить не по правилам.А если при современном развитии науки и вооружений убрать все законы и договоренности то,как кто-то сказал, живые позавидуют мертвым. Слизняк Обама позволил аннексию Крыма,войну на Донбассе,химатаки в Сирии,появление и развитие ИГИЛ. Теперь предстоит это долго и всем миром разгребать.Главное сейчас новых ошибок не допустить.
02:21 08.04.2017
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> ⍟ Ссаный Аналитик (KC77), > > Выходи скорей из бана, скучно здесь без тебя.
02:23 08.04.2017
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> Кстати - мои двое младших сегодня делали скульптуры пасхальных яиц из papier mache для выставки пасхальной в церкви.
Молодчина,правильно деток воспитываешь.
20:54 08.04.2017
A Syrian boy’s touchstone for the work we do
It’s a small white stone with brown markings. You could step on a pile of stones just like it and not notice. You could see such a stone just about anywhere. It’s a stone, but it’s more than a stone. It’s a piece of memory, and a testament to one family’s journey from the home they loved to eventual safety.
As the interview wrapped up, I began to punch holes in the forms and put them into the family’s file. We had spent a little over an hour together, and I had learned about their flight from war-torn Syria and their daily life here in Iraq. We had spoken about Canada’s refugee program and what they could expect once they arrived. I asked the family if they had any other questions before we finished. The eldest son, a smartly dressed boy of 11 with thick brown hair parted to the side, began speaking animatedly in Arabic as soon as the interpreter had translated my question. His mother smiled, explaining that her son had something he wanted to give the interpreter and me.
The boy reached into a well-worn navy blue backpack that had held the family’s documents and snacks for the day. He pulled out a clear plastic bag full of stones, and eagerly made his way past his parents and his several brothers and sisters up to my desk.
“These are stones from my home in Syria,” he said, rather solemnly. “When we had to leave, my mom said I could take some stones with me so I wouldn’t forget my country, so these are the stones I picked. I want you to have one so you will remember my family and Syria, too.” He rummaged around in the bag for a few seconds and, satisfied that he had found the right stones, handed one to each of us. Mine was a small, smooth, oval-shaped stone with brown markings indented into it.
I held the stone in my hand, tightly, and smiled at him, thanking him for his gift, and promising him that I would keep it well. He grinned widely, shuffling from one foot to the other in front of us. I felt the small but magnificent weight of the stone that had travelled so far in a little blue backpack, across checkpoints and borders, through a crowded refugee camp, onto a bus that had left early that morning, and now into my hand. No stone had ever seemed to me so precious.
He continued talking about Syria and the sweets there which, according to him, were more delicious than any sweets he had tasted here in Iraq. The interpreter laughed, explaining, “He is now telling you about all the different flavours of the sweets.”
His mom intervened, gently, and the family rose and began to file out of the trailer. With handshakes and nods we wished each other goodbye, Maa Salama, and they were on their way. I wondered later at the trail the boy was leaving behind him, stones to mark his path, to say: I was here, don’t forget me. Stones connecting him to a Syria that is more than two dimensional images of conflict on TV, a Syria where kids played football in the streets and where moms made sweets.
I hope that one day, in peaceful times, he will be able to follow that trail back and visit the first home he knew. Until then, I am happy that Canada is part of his journey.
21:16 08.04.2017
Конвент,
Хотела бы предложить принять в нашу группу Просветителя. Умеет выражать свои мысли. Отлично владеет русским языком. Грамотен. Отличный слог. Давайте проголосуем
22:21 08.04.2017
⍟ Сивилла (forecast),
Привет! Давно тебя не видно, где пропадала? У тебя скоро классный отдых намечается - I bet you can't wait , I am jealous (in a nice way) - мне до июня ждать. Кстати - ты слышала последнюю новость? Boris Johnson cancels Russia trip just hours before take-off after US air strike on Syria
У нас здесь говорят что Трамп будет продолжать strikes in Syria until Assad is gone. They don't believe here in the UK that Assad is capable of resolving his differences with the opposition as he killed too many people , there 's too much hatred. He is incapable of any peace talks with the opposition - as he is hated so much by everyone in that country right now. He literally has to gas kids and babies to keep himself in power. The guy is evil. Anyway, Trump is maybe a bigot, but at least he has a pair of balls - unlike Obama. I think it's fair to say.
> Хотела бы предложить принять в нашу группу Просветителя. Умеет выражать свои мысли. Отлично владеет русским языком. Грамотен. Отличный слог. Давайте проголосуем > >
> I bet you can't wait , I am jealous (in a nice way) - мне до июня ждать. > Кстати - ты слышала последнюю новость? > Boris Johnson cancels Russia trip just hours before take-off after US air strike on Syria > >
> > У нас здесь говорят что Трамп будет продолжать strikes in Syria until Assad is gone. They don't believe here in the UK that Assad is capable of resolving his differences with the opposition as he killed too many people , there 's too much hatred. He is incapable of any peace talks with the opposition - as he is hated so much by everyone in that country right now. He literally has to gas kids and babies to keep himself in power. The guy is evil. > Anyway, Trump is maybe a bigot, but at least he has a pair of balls - unlike Obama. I think it's fair to say.
Did you hear about a new action by the Kremlin to suspend the agreement on a communications hotline about aircraft movement in the crowded skies over Syria? This hotline was meant to ensure that U.S. warplanes would not mistakenly hit Russian ground forces or run into Russian pilots and fire on one another as they conducted daily bombing runs. The cancelation of communications by Mr. Putin means that he doesn't care whether Russians will be killed or not. I guess nothing is surprising in this case. Usual business by criminal Russian government to send their own people to die for their interests.
> Did you hear about a new action by the Kremlin to suspend the agreement on a communications hotline about aircraft movement in the crowded skies over Syria? This hotline was meant to ensure that U.S. warplanes would not mistakenly hit Russian ground forces or run into Russian pilots and fire on one another as they conducted daily bombing runs. The cancelation of communications by Mr. Putin means that he doesn't care whether Russians will be killed or not. I guess nothing is surprising in this case. Usual business by criminal Russian government to send their own people to die for their interests.
> > >
Yes, I heard about that. To be honest - I think apart from what you mentioned re the Kremlin not giving a flying F about their people's lives - it is of course true and always has been in Russia, but that's not the main issue in my view. In that country human life never had a high price. The main issue in my opinion is the fact that Putin is now well and truly trapped, if not finished. Thanks to Obama's weakness he grew to believe that he will get away with anything - and generally, if you think about it - the guy has been in power like forever by anybody's standards , so it must have gone to his head. Now he looks weak . It is not so much about the strike per se, it is about the fact that someone stood up to him in Syria and that someone happens to be in the right. At the end of the day Putin helps to keep Assad in power, whose being in power prolongs the war and the suffering with no opportunity for any resolution. As like I said - there is no way Assad and the opposition can form any kind of Government. Trump acted decisively and without giving a damn about Putin, showing that Assad will no longer be tolerated. So that puts Putin in a very awkward position. Cause for the domestic audience (unless they are complete idiots or zombied to death by the telly ) - this is going to go down very badly - one can even see by the names of the threads opened on the forum - and from the minority on the forum, as the majority are pro putinists. And Trump also acted very swiftly - so Putin didn't have the time to think it over. So his response is irrational - and that's not what he likes to be seen as, he kind of wants to be seen as this very clever and cool guy who wins all the time. In reality he is a thief, runs a very corrupt country with no proper laws being observed or taxes paid, substandard social infrastructure , etc. But the richest oligarchy in the world. But meddling in Syria unstopped - probably just "stroked his ego" (he wanted to play with the big boys, be an important figure in the eyes of the West, maybe get the sanctions lifted , etc. ) and also - for the domestic audience he was yet again - "the Winner". And now - he 's just had a kick in his teeth and had to take it. So started feeling like a cornered rat and lashed back with this irrational and crazy decision. He is weak and therefore probably going to get dangerous cause - he has everything to lose . I don't know. If Trump carries on and the thing with Trump is - well, so far he has been pretty unpredictable - then Putin will have to back down unless his mind is gone. In any case - since Trump's been in power - more sanctions were introduced as well. I think that praising Trump's win all over their press with the pictures of champagne celebrations in the Kremlin - makes the Kremlin now look stupid - like they don't know what they are doing.
00:38 09.04.2017
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> В конце апреля лечу в Майями и потом на корабле на Багамы, Новый Орлеан, Cozumel и не помню какие-то ещё острова
