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> Девочки, женщины, дочери, матери..С праздником, красивые и умные.!. quoted1
Спасибо большое. У нас здесь это особо не отмечают, я на работу eду, но упоминают по телеку International Women's Day , но многие о нем даже не знают. У нас есть Mother's Day - он в этом году выпал на 26 Марта. Этот день все отмечают - в школе делают дети подарки, представления всякие и т д. Mother's Day- большой праздник у нас, но все равно спасибо. я тоже всех поздравляю
> But growing up in USSR, I would not call a bottom, but close to the middle (for Uk standards) . quoted1
Not the bottom , but by far not middle class by UK standards. But I know what you mean - culturally - those of my generation who grew up in the USSR are lucky, as we got the best of the USSR - such was the timing . As it was a relatively rich period in the existence of the USSR especially end of 70s beginning of 80s - we had excellent education , etc. That is true.
> Now days, social mobility depends more on what you have in your head, than what you have in your pockets. quoted1
Both go together. If one has the money, one can send their kids to a private school . Private school kids will always get better jobs - well, in this country and are very socially mobile. In fact, the statistics in the UK shows that by the time a kid gets to the secondary school age- those privately educated will have overtaken those educated in state schools by 7 years in terms of their knowledge and ability. So - if say you started as a builder, then were successful, opened your construction business, then started making enough money to send your kids to a private school - your kids will move up a class. That is just one example of social mobility here, but there's loads more. One just has to see the opportunities in life and try and make the best of them, not just rely on the State to sort everything out for you. Anyways, I am off to work.
>> But growing up in USSR, I would not call a bottom, but close to the middle (for Uk standards) . quoted2
> > Not the bottom , but by far not middle class by UK standards. But I know what you mean - culturally - those of my generation who grew up in the USSR are lucky, as we got the best of the USSR - such was the timing . As it was a relatively rich period in the existence of the USSR especially end of 70s beginning of 80s - we had excellent education , etc. That is true. >
> иг911 (ig911) писал(а) в ответ на сообщение:
>> Now days, social mobility depends more on what you have in your head, than what you have in your pockets. quoted2
> > Both go together. If one has the money, one can send their kids to a private school . Private school kids will always get better jobs - well, in this country and are very socially mobile. In fact, the statistics in the UK shows that by the time a kid gets to the secondary school age- those privately educated will have overtaken those educated in state schools by 7 years in terms of their knowledge and ability. So - if say you started as a builder, then were successful, opened your construction business, then started making enough money to send your kids to a private school - your kids will move up a class. That is just one example of social mobility here, but there's loads more. One just has to see the opportunities in life and try and make the best of them, not just rely on the State to sort everything out for you. > Anyways, I am off to work. quoted1
I am not completely agree with you. Yes, in old school when the only path to success was career in business or politics, Then, rich family and private school would definitely give you a leg up. But now days, career in IT, medicine, Law - requires intellectuality and drive, this is were rich kids loose and children of poor immigrants win (in general).