> Друзья, Телеграф , как и вся западная мидия строчит антипутинские статьи в поддержку Навального. Самое интересное, что почти каждый коммент читателей под статьей - пропутинские. Я знаю вы тут многие шпрехаете - почитайте. Под спойлером. это не тролли, многие из комментирующих - комментируют и другие статьи, никакого отношения к России не имеющии и известны на телеграфном форуме. Вот комменты под одной из таких статей. > > > ********* (раскрыть)Andy Webster > 1 Feb 2021 6:17PM > Sounds all very reasonable from a Brit point of view, but this is Russia we are talking about. The writer doesn't know his subject and is very very naive. The only possible result of any sort of "successful" revolution would be another tyrant supported by his cronies. > > Flag > George Rosala > 1 Feb 2021 6:15PM > If people in the Foreign Office don't know more about Russia and the Russians than people commenting here we are in serious trouble. > > Flag > Geof King > 1 Feb 2021 6:02PM > The gloating coming from the EU and US is a bit inappropriate considering the COVID riots in the Netherlands, Yellow jackets fun and the storming of Congress. The moral authority of the West is non existent. The support for this joker, Navalny stems from the debasement of state pensions. If of course you compound this with western sanctions on Russia it’s any wonder they have still got it together. Putin should retire, but I do not see Navalny as his successor, he just doesn’t have what it takes to rule the roost of gangster land. > > Flag > Mark Oxley > 1 Feb 2021 5:54PM > The tragedy is that we fought so hard to end the Cold War that we didn’t think the end would be so quick or so complete. Let’s now finish the work properly and see if we can introduce a degree of plurality, rule of law and democracy to the great country of Russia. > > Flag > George Rosala > 1 Feb 2021 6:21PM > @Mark Oxley > > Russia is not the Soviet Union trying to export the communist ideology around the world. As such it is not our business to get involved in their internal affairs. Just curious: what was your personal sacrifice to end the Cold War? > > > Flag > tony kaminskyj > 1 Feb 2021 7:34PM > @George Rosala Many sacrificed by working hard to prove that capitalism made us more wealthy. > > Flag > Mark Oxley > 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM > The shameless face of the Russian establishment is shocking. Reading pronouncements from the London Embassy is literally breathtaking, as it was to their submissions to the UN Security Council after the Salisbury incident. > > Flag > Pet Cla > 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM > If the West keeps interfering with and trying to destabilise Russia. > > Russia will keep funding and orgaising Scottish referendum and woke protests to destabilise the west. > > > Flag > Gwyn Jones > 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM > With no opposition party as such, because they are persecuted if they speak out, and a totally corrupt Putin and Communist Party, are we about to witness another Russian revolution. With no alternative open to the Russian people are the signs ominous. > > Flag > Kieran Smithson > 1 Feb 2021 5:13PM > Maybe Trump's good mate will now get his comeuppance too. > > How Trump got away with conniving with Putin is beyond me. > > > Flag > martin parsons > 1 Feb 2021 5:14PM > @Kieran Smithson > > Because he didn't? > > > Flag > Joseph Berger > 1 Feb 2021 5:37PM > @Kieran Smithson > > > it's called politics or diplomacy, > > they avoided war, > > before corona the US economy boomed, Russia's went nowhere, > > same with North Korea, has North Korea stopped its fantasies of taking over the south and terrorizing China? no, of course not, but neither has it started a war, and certainly not with the US, > > > in today's world those are huge achievements, and only miserably ungrateful people cannot acknowledge them > > > Flag > Dun Negotiating > 1 Feb 2021 5:06PM > I wonder how long it will be before Mr Navalny dies from a certain virus! > > Flag > Yarom Selwar > 1 Feb 2021 5:22PM > The story that he was poisoned with 'Novichock' doesn't stack up. If the Russian state wanted him dead they could have arranged it to happen when he was first admitted to hospital after he became ill during the flight. Instead they allowed him to be transferred to a hospital in Germany where the 'poison' was then detected. That story makes absolutely no sense. > > Flag > Graham Griffiths > 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM > @Yarom Selwar > > Do you have a better story? > > > Flag > Christopher Jennings > 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM > What was he poisoned with then Yarom? Only Russia has a weapons grade novichok agent. > > Flag > martin parsons > 1 Feb 2021 5:05PM > "A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin" > > No, what does anyone know about Alexi Navalny? He Is a chancer with no Political Party, no organisation a sheep In wolves clothing. > > More wishful thinking that fact from the media. A few hundred demonstrators In a few cities won't convince the 145 million Russians and they know that. > > > Flag > Graham Griffiths > 1 Feb 2021 5:21PM > @martin parsons > > The one thing we all know about Alexi Navalny is that he has courage in spades - probably a lot more that any commentator here! > > > Flag > Mark Oxley > 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM > @martin parsons And what exactly do you think the people support about their ex KGB President for life? > > Flag > Pending Approval > 1 Feb 2021 4:54PM
>>> A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin
> > Bring it on. It can't come a moment too soon. The removal of Putin and his replacement with a democratic regime is one that would hugely benefit Russia and the wider world. It's just that I don't see this mafia state changing anytime soon. > > > The same can be said for many despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all the other Stans, Zimbabwe, China and of course NK. > > > Flag > Joseph Berger > 1 Feb 2021 5:39PM > @Pending Approval > > > wrong about the first, correct about the others, > > > The Saudis are the most likely to change - albeit slowly - because more than the others they know they have to > > > Flag > John Polenski > 1 Feb 2021 4:39PM > Putin beats his people. > > Russian men beat their women. The number of deaths annually is in the thousands. In response, four years ago the Russian Duma decriminalized domestic violence, saying it should be kept "in the family". > > There's an old Russian proverb - "if he beats you, it means he loves you." So the men will continue to beat their "loved ones".... and Putin will continue to beat his people. > > Because that's Russia Today. > > > Flag > Kevin Alton Honeywell > 1 Feb 2021 5:03PM > @John Polenski Supported as always by the now-schismatic Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, and its servile Patriarch Kirill, still the KGB officer in his golden vestments. > > Flag > MELINE CAUMON > 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM > @John Polenski Stop saying stupid things about RUssia, it a new occidental Kabal . > > Navalny is an occidental spy, he is an ancientstudent of Yale , and does everything he can todo harm for his country.he had aproblem with a french company... Fromt where all this money to organise these meetings in the streets? > > > Flag > Paul Dee > 1 Feb 2021 4:33PM > Russia has indulged in aggressive behavior in recent years with the annexation of The Crmea , military action in Eastern Ukraine and threatening manoevres on the borders of the Baltic States. In their paranoia they accuse the West of seeking to undermine Russia. I doubt that the West would want the responsibility for that broken nation. > > > At the same time Russia should be aware of China across their common frontier in Siberia. Far more potentially threatening than the West ; Oil and gas , gold and other resources that China could most certainly use just across that border. As Russia weakens China is on route to becoming the world's supreme power. Russia might be well advised to realign. > > > Flag > martin parsons > 1 Feb 2021 5:10PM > @Paul Dee > > You sound like the BBC. Crimea had a referendum and Is very pro Russia. The Eastern States of the Ukraine are also very pro Russia. It's only the Eastern states that want to distance from Russia and join the EU. > > Russia Is P---d Off because they have missiles (NATO) aimed at them only 90 miles from St Petersburg > > > Flag > Christopher Jennings > 1 Feb 2021 5:17PM > How does he sound like the BBC? > > Russia illegally invaded and annexed crimea and then held a rigged referendum. > > Russia has missiles aimed at Europe too. Putin keeps banging on about war, Europe wants peace. All putin has to do is respect the sovereignty of the European nation states, including those that were its colonies under the USSR. > > > Flag > Yarom Selwar > 1 Feb 2021 6:00PM > Rightly or wrongly, there was no need to rig the election as the bulk of the Crimea populace identify as Russian. > > Flag > Paul Dee > 1 Feb 2021 5:26PM > @martin parsons @Paul Dee Wasn't the Crimean referendum post factum after green clad soldiers were on the ground ? Easter Ukraine should have been made semi-autonomist without those mysterious green clad yet again ( and with them shooting down a civilian airliner ) > > As it happens I wrote comments in The Economist as far back as 2009 protesting against the expansion of NATO eastwards. So to that extent I am in your camp. > > > Flag > Paul Dee > 1 Feb 2021 5:34PM > @martin parsons @Paul Dee Didn't The Crimea have the referendum post factum with green clad soldiers on the ground ? Eastern Ukraine should have been semi-autonomous within Ukraine but is now under control of yet more green clad troops. > > As it happens I wrote several comments to The Economist in the 2000s to protest against the expansion of NATO eastwards. To that extent I am in your camp. > > > Flag > William Timkey > 1 Feb 2021 6:19PM > @martin parsons @Paul Dee And they shot down the KLM airliner.The "off duty " volunteers captured Donblas with facebook evidence of Russian Tanks. > > Flag > Edward Seaton > 1 Feb 2021 4:18PM > We live in a country in which it is against the law to get married. > > Flag > Robert Griffiths > 1 Feb 2021 3:22PM > It is better to leave the lid on Russia, to contain the can of worms inside. > > Flag > Tony Herbert > 1 Feb 2021 3:16PM > For crying out loud, leave Russia and Putin alone. > > Haven't we, the Brits, got enough troubles of our own? Who are we to meddle in their affairs? > > This ridiculous passé, long gone cold war agenda, promoted by the EU with its greedy eyes on Ukraine, Byelorussia et al, is so absurd, unnecessary and counter-productive and is profoundly irrelevant to the UK. Indeed harmful in our global aspirations. > > I thought we had left the EUSSR and its works. > > > Flag > Paul Dee > 1 Feb 2021 4:50PM > @Tony Herbert Beats me why the EU would want to take on the burden of Ukraine or Byelorussia. Isn't the EU already forking out huge subsidies to members in Eastern Europe and the Balkans. It is not that all these nations have exemplary governments ( and there are others in the queue to join with their development needs prepared ) > > Flag > The Alpine > 1 Feb 2021 3:06PM > A warning. Putin may well be ehem “dubious”, he maybe a criminal, however... Russia has an undercurrent of brutality (read primitivity) embedded within it that is not widely reported, read or understood in the West. This is because, to be frank, most people don’t care, but they should know that Putin is a lid an a box of potential evils far worse than him. How many times does the west have to learn not to meddle or agitate and that populations need to fix problems for themselves. > > The answer to Putin was not to engage or do business with him or any of his associates. > > Unfortunately, Blair was more interested in bringing their dirty money into London than ethics imho. > > > Flag > Chris Francis > 1 Feb 2021 5:19PM > Reminds me of the situation with Saddam > > Unintended consequences and all that.... > > > Flag > Wim Shine > 1 Feb 2021 3:01PM > This same headline has been copy pasted every year since Putin showed he wasn't the western puppet they thought he was. It's been 20 years, but I'm sure if you keep predicting it eventually he will indeed be out of office. Prior protests were much bigger in scope and scale. > > Rather than worry about corruption in Russia, we should focus on the chumocracy over here. > > Russia is better off now than it was before Putin came to power, and that is why he is still able to be in charge. > > Writing nonsense based on wishful thinking won't remove him from office. > > > Flag > Frank Enstein > 1 Feb 2021 2:57PM > I like what I answered to someone earlier, so here it is for wider consumption: > Putin's like old Blue Tack - Difficult to peel off, and it leaves nasty stains. > > > Flag > Tony Herbert > 1 Feb 2021 3:20PM > @Frank Enstein > > What, a bit like the British 'New Labour' and UnLib/Dum parties. Except for the colours. > > > Flag > IAIN STEWART > 1 Feb 2021 2:34PM > Much like the ghastly religions, Russians WANT to be controlled. Check out Christopher Hitchens' youtube explanation of why some folk like to be told what to do and think until death. It's called TOTALITARIANISM. > > Flag > A Prepper > 1 Feb 2021 4:32PM > @IAIN STEWART > > Looks like a substantial part of the UK population are of the same mind. > > > Flag > William Rusbridge > 1 Feb 2021 2:16PM > There is indeed some opposition to Putin but a lot of Russians like a leader to appear 'tough' and neither want, or understand democracy. First the Tsars, then a communist dictatorship led by Stalin himself, then the Soviet Union. > > Flag > Mark Oxley
> 1 Feb 2021 5:57PM > @William Rusbridge Old hat....they said that about communism. Ask a Pole or a Czech about how well that went. >
>> Друзья, Телеграф , как и вся западная мидия строчит антипутинские статьи в поддержку Навального. Самое интересное, что почти каждый коммент читателей под статьей - пропутинские. Я знаю вы тут многие шпрехаете - почитайте. Под спойлером. это не тролли, многие из комментирующих - комментируют и другие статьи, никакого отношения к России не имеющии и известны на телеграфном форуме. Вот комменты под одной из таких статей. >> >> > ********* (раскрыть)Andy Webster >> 1 Feb 2021 6:17PM >> Sounds all very reasonable from a Brit point of view, but this is Russia we are talking about. The writer doesn't know his subject and is very very naive. The only possible result of any sort of "successful" revolution would be another tyrant supported by his cronies. >> >> Flag >> George Rosala >> 1 Feb 2021 6:15PM >> If people in the Foreign Office don't know more about Russia and the Russians than people commenting here we are in serious trouble. >> >> Flag >> Geof King >> 1 Feb 2021 6:02PM >> The gloating coming from the EU and US is a bit inappropriate considering the COVID riots in the Netherlands, Yellow jackets fun and the storming of Congress. The moral authority of the West is non existent. The support for this joker, Navalny stems from the debasement of state pensions. If of course you compound this with western sanctions on Russia it’s any wonder they have still got it together. Putin should retire, but I do not see Navalny as his successor, he just doesn’t have what it takes to rule the roost of gangster land. >> >> Flag >> Mark Oxley >> 1 Feb 2021 5:54PM >> The tragedy is that we fought so hard to end the Cold War that we didn’t think the end would be so quick or so complete. Let’s now finish the work properly and see if we can introduce a degree of plurality, rule of law and democracy to the great country of Russia. >> >> Flag >> George Rosala >> 1 Feb 2021 6:21PM >> @Mark Oxley >> >> Russia is not the Soviet Union trying to export the communist ideology around the world. As such it is not our business to get involved in their internal affairs. Just curious: what was your personal sacrifice to end the Cold War? >> >> >> Flag >> tony kaminskyj >> 1 Feb 2021 7:34PM >> @George Rosala Many sacrificed by working hard to prove that capitalism made us more wealthy. >> >> Flag >> Mark Oxley >> 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM >> The shameless face of the Russian establishment is shocking. Reading pronouncements from the London Embassy is literally breathtaking, as it was to their submissions to the UN Security Council after the Salisbury incident. >> >> Flag >> Pet Cla >> 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM >> If the West keeps interfering with and trying to destabilise Russia. >> >> Russia will keep funding and orgaising Scottish referendum and woke protests to destabilise the west. >> >> >> Flag >> Gwyn Jones >> 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM >> With no opposition party as such, because they are persecuted if they speak out, and a totally corrupt Putin and Communist Party, are we about to witness another Russian revolution. With no alternative open to the Russian people are the signs ominous. >> >> Flag >> Kieran Smithson >> 1 Feb 2021 5:13PM >> Maybe Trump's good mate will now get his comeuppance too. >> >> How Trump got away with conniving with Putin is beyond me. >> >> >> Flag >> martin parsons >> 1 Feb 2021 5:14PM >> @Kieran Smithson >> >> Because he didn't? >> >> >> Flag >> Joseph Berger >> 1 Feb 2021 5:37PM >> @Kieran Smithson >> >> >> it's called politics or diplomacy, >> >> they avoided war, >> >> before corona the US economy boomed, Russia's went nowhere, >> >> same with North Korea, has North Korea stopped its fantasies of taking over the south and terrorizing China? no, of course not, but neither has it started a war, and certainly not with the US, >> >> >> in today's world those are huge achievements, and only miserably ungrateful people cannot acknowledge them >> >> >> Flag >> Dun Negotiating >> 1 Feb 2021 5:06PM >> I wonder how long it will be before Mr Navalny dies from a certain virus! >> >> Flag >> Yarom Selwar >> 1 Feb 2021 5:22PM >> The story that he was poisoned with 'Novichock' doesn't stack up. If the Russian state wanted him dead they could have arranged it to happen when he was first admitted to hospital after he became ill during the flight. Instead they allowed him to be transferred to a hospital in Germany where the 'poison' was then detected. That story makes absolutely no sense. >> >> Flag >> Graham Griffiths >> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >> @Yarom Selwar >> >> Do you have a better story? >> >> >> Flag >> Christopher Jennings >> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >> What was he poisoned with then Yarom? Only Russia has a weapons grade novichok agent. >> >> Flag >> martin parsons >> 1 Feb 2021 5:05PM >> "A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin" >> >> No, what does anyone know about Alexi Navalny? He Is a chancer with no Political Party, no organisation a sheep In wolves clothing. >> >> More wishful thinking that fact from the media. A few hundred demonstrators In a few cities won't convince the 145 million Russians and they know that. >> >> >> Flag >> Graham Griffiths >> 1 Feb 2021 5:21PM >> @martin parsons >> >> The one thing we all know about Alexi Navalny is that he has courage in spades - probably a lot more that any commentator here! >> >> >> Flag >> Mark Oxley >> 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM >> @martin parsons And what exactly do you think the people support about their ex KGB President for life? >> >> Flag >> Pending Approval >> 1 Feb 2021 4:54PM
>>>> A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin
>> >> Bring it on. It can't come a moment too soon. The removal of Putin and his replacement with a democratic regime is one that would hugely benefit Russia and the wider world. It's just that I don't see this mafia state changing anytime soon. >> >> >> The same can be said for many despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all the other Stans, Zimbabwe, China and of course NK. >> >> >> Flag >> Joseph Berger >> 1 Feb 2021 5:39PM >> @Pending Approval >> >> >> wrong about the first, correct about the others, >> >> >> The Saudis are the most likely to change - albeit slowly - because more than the others they know they have to >> >> >> Flag >> John Polenski >> 1 Feb 2021 4:39PM >> Putin beats his people. >> >> Russian men beat their women. The number of deaths annually is in the thousands. In response, four years ago the Russian Duma decriminalized domestic violence, saying it should be kept "in the family". >> >> There's an old Russian proverb - "if he beats you, it means he loves you." So the men will continue to beat their "loved ones".... and Putin will continue to beat his people. >> >> Because that's Russia Today. >> >> >> Flag >> Kevin Alton Honeywell >> 1 Feb 2021 5:03PM >> @John Polenski Supported as always by the now-schismatic Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, and its servile Patriarch Kirill, still the KGB officer in his golden vestments. >> >> Flag >> MELINE CAUMON >> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >> @John Polenski Stop saying stupid things about RUssia, it a new occidental Kabal . >> >> Navalny is an occidental spy, he is an ancientstudent of Yale , and does everything he can todo harm for his country.he had aproblem with a french company... Fromt where all this money to organise these meetings in the streets? >> >> >> Flag >> Paul Dee >> 1 Feb 2021 4:33PM >> Russia has indulged in aggressive behavior in recent years with the annexation of The Crmea , military action in Eastern Ukraine and threatening manoevres on the borders of the Baltic States. In their paranoia they accuse the West of seeking to undermine Russia. I doubt that the West would want the responsibility for that broken nation. >> >> >> At the same time Russia should be aware of China across their common frontier in Siberia. Far more potentially threatening than the West ; Oil and gas , gold and other resources that China could most certainly use just across that border. As Russia weakens China is on route to becoming the world's supreme power. Russia might be well advised to realign. >> >> >> Flag >> martin parsons >> 1 Feb 2021 5:10PM >> @Paul Dee >> >> You sound like the BBC. Crimea had a referendum and Is very pro Russia. The Eastern States of the Ukraine are also very pro Russia. It's only the Eastern states that want to distance from Russia and join the EU. >> >> Russia Is P---d Off because they have missiles (NATO) aimed at them only 90 miles from St Petersburg >> >> >> Flag >> Christopher Jennings >> 1 Feb 2021 5:17PM >> How does he sound like the BBC? >> >> Russia illegally invaded and annexed crimea and then held a rigged referendum. >> >> Russia has missiles aimed at Europe too. Putin keeps banging on about war, Europe wants peace. All putin has to do is respect the sovereignty of the European nation states, including those that were its colonies under the USSR. >> >> >> Flag >> Yarom Selwar >> 1 Feb 2021 6:00PM >> Rightly or wrongly, there was no need to rig the election as the bulk of the Crimea populace identify as Russian. >> >> Flag >> Paul Dee >> 1 Feb 2021 5:26PM >> @martin parsons @Paul Dee Wasn't the Crimean referendum post factum after green clad soldiers were on the ground ? Easter Ukraine should have been made semi-autonomist without those mysterious green clad yet again ( and with them shooting down a civilian airliner ) >> >> As it happens I wrote comments in The Economist as far back as 2009 protesting against the expansion of NATO eastwards. So to that extent I am in your camp. >> >> >> Flag >> Paul Dee >> 1 Feb 2021 5:34PM >> @martin parsons @Paul Dee Didn't The Crimea have the referendum post factum with green clad soldiers on the ground ? Eastern Ukraine should have been semi-autonomous within Ukraine but is now under control of yet more green clad troops. >> >> As it happens I wrote several comments to The Economist in the 2000s to protest against the expansion of NATO eastwards. To that extent I am in your camp. >> >> >> Flag >> William Timkey >> 1 Feb 2021 6:19PM >> @martin parsons @Paul Dee And they shot down the KLM airliner.The "off duty " volunteers captured Donblas with facebook evidence of Russian Tanks. >> >> Flag >> Edward Seaton >> 1 Feb 2021 4:18PM >> We live in a country in which it is against the law to get married. >> >> Flag >> Robert Griffiths >> 1 Feb 2021 3:22PM >> It is better to leave the lid on Russia, to contain the can of worms inside. >> >> Flag >> Tony Herbert >> 1 Feb 2021 3:16PM >> For crying out loud, leave Russia and Putin alone. >> >> Haven't we, the Brits, got enough troubles of our own? Who are we to meddle in their affairs? >> >> This ridiculous passé, long gone cold war agenda, promoted by the EU with its greedy eyes on Ukraine, Byelorussia et al, is so absurd, unnecessary and counter-productive and is profoundly irrelevant to the UK. Indeed harmful in our global aspirations. >> >> I thought we had left the EUSSR and its works. >> >> >> Flag >> Paul Dee >> 1 Feb 2021 4:50PM >> @Tony Herbert Beats me why the EU would want to take on the burden of Ukraine or Byelorussia. Isn't the EU already forking out huge subsidies to members in Eastern Europe and the Balkans. It is not that all these nations have exemplary governments ( and there are others in the queue to join with their development needs prepared ) >> >> Flag >> The Alpine >> 1 Feb 2021 3:06PM >> A warning. Putin may well be ehem “dubious”, he maybe a criminal, however... Russia has an undercurrent of brutality (read primitivity) embedded within it that is not widely reported, read or understood in the West. This is because, to be frank, most people don’t care, but they should know that Putin is a lid an a box of potential evils far worse than him. How many times does the west have to learn not to meddle or agitate and that populations need to fix problems for themselves. >> >> The answer to Putin was not to engage or do business with him or any of his associates. >> >> Unfortunately, Blair was more interested in bringing their dirty money into London than ethics imho. >> >> >> Flag >> Chris Francis >> 1 Feb 2021 5:19PM >> Reminds me of the situation with Saddam >> >> Unintended consequences and all that.... >> >> >> Flag >> Wim Shine >> 1 Feb 2021 3:01PM >> This same headline has been copy pasted every year since Putin showed he wasn't the western puppet they thought he was. It's been 20 years, but I'm sure if you keep predicting it eventually he will indeed be out of office. Prior protests were much bigger in scope and scale. >> >> Rather than worry about corruption in Russia, we should focus on the chumocracy over here. >> >> Russia is better off now than it was before Putin came to power, and that is why he is still able to be in charge. >> >> Writing nonsense based on wishful thinking won't remove him from office. >> >> >> Flag >> Frank Enstein >> 1 Feb 2021 2:57PM >> I like what I answered to someone earlier, so here it is for wider consumption: >> Putin's like old Blue Tack - Difficult to peel off, and it leaves nasty stains. >> >> >> Flag >> Tony Herbert >> 1 Feb 2021 3:20PM >> @Frank Enstein >> >> What, a bit like the British 'New Labour' and UnLib/Dum parties. Except for the colours. >> >> >> Flag >> IAIN STEWART >> 1 Feb 2021 2:34PM >> Much like the ghastly religions, Russians WANT to be controlled. Check out Christopher Hitchens' youtube explanation of why some folk like to be told what to do and think until death. It's called TOTALITARIANISM. >> >> Flag >> A Prepper >> 1 Feb 2021 4:32PM >> @IAIN STEWART >> >> Looks like a substantial part of the UK population are of the same mind. >> >> >> Flag >> William Rusbridge >> 1 Feb 2021 2:16PM >> There is indeed some opposition to Putin but a lot of Russians like a leader to appear 'tough' and neither want, or understand democracy. First the Tsars, then a communist dictatorship led by Stalin himself, then the Soviet Union.
>> >> Flag >> Mark Oxley
> >
>> 1 Feb 2021 5:57PM
>> @William Rusbridge Old hat....they said that about communism. Ask a Pole or a Czech about how well that went. >>
> > напоминает наш форум.
Та нееее))) как-то без огонька)))
23:43 01.02.2021
Вот этот мне понравился. Хоть чел и называет Россию гангстерской страной (здесь давно всем забили в мозг миф про русскую мафию), но он хотя бы не лецемерен и говорит все как есть.
Flag Geof King 1 Feb 2021 6:02PM The gloating coming from the EU and US is a bit inappropriate considering the COVID riots in the Netherlands, Yellow jackets fun and the storming of Congress. The moral authority of the West is non existent. The support for this joker, Navalny stems from the debasement of state pensions. If of course you compound this with western sanctions on Russia it’s any wonder they have still got it together. Putin should retire, but I do not see Navalny as his successor, he just doesn’t have what it takes to rule the roost of gangster land.
Поражают лицемеры из Конвента, что радовались и хлопали в ладоши когда стреляли в тех кто ворвался в Капитолий, а сейчас защищают фанов Навального, из которых не убит не один. Вот это - ливемерие так лицемерие. Защиты разгона мирных желтых жилетов во Франции мы от них тоже не наблюдали.
23:44 01.02.2021
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> А кому понравилось "Одиночество в сети"?
мне. но концовка сильно печальная.
как у Мнишек- прокаженная....я урыдалась когда она описывала смерть героини
>>> Друзья, Телеграф , как и вся западная мидия строчит антипутинские статьи в поддержку Навального. Самое интересное, что почти каждый коммент читателей под статьей - пропутинские. Я знаю вы тут многие шпрехаете - почитайте. Под спойлером. это не тролли, многие из комментирующих - комментируют и другие статьи, никакого отношения к России не имеющии и известны на телеграфном форуме. Вот комменты под одной из таких статей. >>> >>> > ********* (раскрыть)Andy Webster >>> 1 Feb 2021 6:17PM >>> Sounds all very reasonable from a Brit point of view, but this is Russia we are talking about. The writer doesn't know his subject and is very very naive. The only possible result of any sort of "successful" revolution would be another tyrant supported by his cronies. >>> >>> Flag >>> George Rosala >>> 1 Feb 2021 6:15PM >>> If people in the Foreign Office don't know more about Russia and the Russians than people commenting here we are in serious trouble. >>> >>> Flag >>> Geof King >>> 1 Feb 2021 6:02PM >>> The gloating coming from the EU and US is a bit inappropriate considering the COVID riots in the Netherlands, Yellow jackets fun and the storming of Congress. The moral authority of the West is non existent. The support for this joker, Navalny stems from the debasement of state pensions. If of course you compound this with western sanctions on Russia it’s any wonder they have still got it together. Putin should retire, but I do not see Navalny as his successor, he just doesn’t have what it takes to rule the roost of gangster land. >>> >>> Flag >>> Mark Oxley >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:54PM >>> The tragedy is that we fought so hard to end the Cold War that we didn’t think the end would be so quick or so complete. Let’s now finish the work properly and see if we can introduce a degree of plurality, rule of law and democracy to the great country of Russia. >>> >>> Flag >>> George Rosala >>> 1 Feb 2021 6:21PM >>> @Mark Oxley >>> >>> Russia is not the Soviet Union trying to export the communist ideology around the world. As such it is not our business to get involved in their internal affairs. Just curious: what was your personal sacrifice to end the Cold War? >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> tony kaminskyj >>> 1 Feb 2021 7:34PM >>> @George Rosala Many sacrificed by working hard to prove that capitalism made us more wealthy. >>> >>> Flag >>> Mark Oxley >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM >>> The shameless face of the Russian establishment is shocking. Reading pronouncements from the London Embassy is literally breathtaking, as it was to their submissions to the UN Security Council after the Salisbury incident. >>> >>> Flag >>> Pet Cla >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM >>> If the West keeps interfering with and trying to destabilise Russia. >>> >>> Russia will keep funding and orgaising Scottish referendum and woke protests to destabilise the west. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Gwyn Jones >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM >>> With no opposition party as such, because they are persecuted if they speak out, and a totally corrupt Putin and Communist Party, are we about to witness another Russian revolution. With no alternative open to the Russian people are the signs ominous. >>> >>> Flag >>> Kieran Smithson >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:13PM >>> Maybe Trump's good mate will now get his comeuppance too. >>> >>> How Trump got away with conniving with Putin is beyond me. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> martin parsons >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:14PM >>> @Kieran Smithson >>> >>> Because he didn't? >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Joseph Berger >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:37PM >>> @Kieran Smithson >>> >>> >>> it's called politics or diplomacy, >>> >>> they avoided war, >>> >>> before corona the US economy boomed, Russia's went nowhere, >>> >>> same with North Korea, has North Korea stopped its fantasies of taking over the south and terrorizing China? no, of course not, but neither has it started a war, and certainly not with the US, >>> >>> >>> in today's world those are huge achievements, and only miserably ungrateful people cannot acknowledge them >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Dun Negotiating >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:06PM >>> I wonder how long it will be before Mr Navalny dies from a certain virus! >>> >>> Flag >>> Yarom Selwar >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:22PM >>> The story that he was poisoned with 'Novichock' doesn't stack up. If the Russian state wanted him dead they could have arranged it to happen when he was first admitted to hospital after he became ill during the flight. Instead they allowed him to be transferred to a hospital in Germany where the 'poison' was then detected. That story makes absolutely no sense. >>> >>> Flag >>> Graham Griffiths >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >>> @Yarom Selwar >>> >>> Do you have a better story? >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Christopher Jennings >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >>> What was he poisoned with then Yarom? Only Russia has a weapons grade novichok agent. >>> >>> Flag >>> martin parsons >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:05PM >>> "A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin" >>> >>> No, what does anyone know about Alexi Navalny? He Is a chancer with no Political Party, no organisation a sheep In wolves clothing. >>> >>> More wishful thinking that fact from the media. A few hundred demonstrators In a few cities won't convince the 145 million Russians and they know that. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Graham Griffiths >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:21PM >>> @martin parsons >>> >>> The one thing we all know about Alexi Navalny is that he has courage in spades - probably a lot more that any commentator here! >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Mark Oxley >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM >>> @martin parsons And what exactly do you think the people support about their ex KGB President for life? >>> >>> Flag >>> Pending Approval >>> 1 Feb 2021 4:54PM >>>>> A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin >>> >>> Bring it on. It can't come a moment too soon. The removal of Putin and his replacement with a democratic regime is one that would hugely benefit Russia and the wider world. It's just that I don't see this mafia state changing anytime soon. >>> >>> >>> The same can be said for many despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all the other Stans, Zimbabwe, China and of course NK. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Joseph Berger >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:39PM >>> @Pending Approval >>> >>> >>> wrong about the first, correct about the others, >>> >>> >>> The Saudis are the most likely to change - albeit slowly - because more than the others they know they have to >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> John Polenski >>> 1 Feb 2021 4:39PM >>> Putin beats his people. >>> >>> Russian men beat their women. The number of deaths annually is in the thousands. In response, four years ago the Russian Duma decriminalized domestic violence, saying it should be kept "in the family". >>> >>> There's an old Russian proverb - "if he beats you, it means he loves you." So the men will continue to beat their "loved ones".... and Putin will continue to beat his people. >>> >>> Because that's Russia Today. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Kevin Alton Honeywell >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:03PM >>> @John Polenski Supported as always by the now-schismatic Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, and its servile Patriarch Kirill, still the KGB officer in his golden vestments. >>> >>> Flag >>> MELINE CAUMON >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >>> @John Polenski Stop saying stupid things about RUssia, it a new occidental Kabal . >>> >>> Navalny is an occidental spy, he is an ancientstudent of Yale , and does everything he can todo harm for his country.he had aproblem with a french company... Fromt where all this money to organise these meetings in the streets? >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Paul Dee >>> 1 Feb 2021 4:33PM >>> Russia has indulged in aggressive behavior in recent years with the annexation of The Crmea , military action in Eastern Ukraine and threatening manoevres on the borders of the Baltic States. In their paranoia they accuse the West of seeking to undermine Russia. I doubt that the West would want the responsibility for that broken nation. >>> >>> >>> At the same time Russia should be aware of China across their common frontier in Siberia. Far more potentially threatening than the West ; Oil and gas , gold and other resources that China could most certainly use just across that border. As Russia weakens China is on route to becoming the world's supreme power. Russia might be well advised to realign. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> martin parsons >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:10PM >>> @Paul Dee >>> >>> You sound like the BBC. Crimea had a referendum and Is very pro Russia. The Eastern States of the Ukraine are also very pro Russia. It's only the Eastern states that want to distance from Russia and join the EU. >>> >>> Russia Is P---d Off because they have missiles (NATO) aimed at them only 90 miles from St Petersburg >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Christopher Jennings >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:17PM >>> How does he sound like the BBC? >>> >>> Russia illegally invaded and annexed crimea and then held a rigged referendum. >>> >>> Russia has missiles aimed at Europe too. Putin keeps banging on about war, Europe wants peace. All putin has to do is respect the sovereignty of the European nation states, including those that were its colonies under the USSR. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Yarom Selwar >>> 1 Feb 2021 6:00PM >>> Rightly or wrongly, there was no need to rig the election as the bulk of the Crimea populace identify as Russian. >>> >>> Flag >>> Paul Dee >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:26PM >>> @martin parsons @Paul Dee Wasn't the Crimean referendum post factum after green clad soldiers were on the ground ? Easter Ukraine should have been made semi-autonomist without those mysterious green clad yet again ( and with them shooting down a civilian airliner ) >>> >>> As it happens I wrote comments in The Economist as far back as 2009 protesting against the expansion of NATO eastwards. So to that extent I am in your camp. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Paul Dee >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:34PM >>> @martin parsons @Paul Dee Didn't The Crimea have the referendum post factum with green clad soldiers on the ground ? Eastern Ukraine should have been semi-autonomous within Ukraine but is now under control of yet more green clad troops. >>> >>> As it happens I wrote several comments to The Economist in the 2000s to protest against the expansion of NATO eastwards. To that extent I am in your camp. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> William Timkey >>> 1 Feb 2021 6:19PM >>> @martin parsons @Paul Dee And they shot down the KLM airliner.The "off duty " volunteers captured Donblas with facebook evidence of Russian Tanks. >>> >>> Flag >>> Edward Seaton >>> 1 Feb 2021 4:18PM >>> We live in a country in which it is against the law to get married. >>> >>> Flag >>> Robert Griffiths >>> 1 Feb 2021 3:22PM >>> It is better to leave the lid on Russia, to contain the can of worms inside. >>> >>> Flag >>> Tony Herbert >>> 1 Feb 2021 3:16PM >>> For crying out loud, leave Russia and Putin alone. >>> >>> Haven't we, the Brits, got enough troubles of our own? Who are we to meddle in their affairs? >>> >>> This ridiculous passé, long gone cold war agenda, promoted by the EU with its greedy eyes on Ukraine, Byelorussia et al, is so absurd, unnecessary and counter-productive and is profoundly irrelevant to the UK. Indeed harmful in our global aspirations. >>> >>> I thought we had left the EUSSR and its works. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Paul Dee >>> 1 Feb 2021 4:50PM >>> @Tony Herbert Beats me why the EU would want to take on the burden of Ukraine or Byelorussia. Isn't the EU already forking out huge subsidies to members in Eastern Europe and the Balkans. It is not that all these nations have exemplary governments ( and there are others in the queue to join with their development needs prepared ) >>> >>> Flag >>> The Alpine >>> 1 Feb 2021 3:06PM >>> A warning. Putin may well be ehem “dubious”, he maybe a criminal, however... Russia has an undercurrent of brutality (read primitivity) embedded within it that is not widely reported, read or understood in the West. This is because, to be frank, most people don’t care, but they should know that Putin is a lid an a box of potential evils far worse than him. How many times does the west have to learn not to meddle or agitate and that populations need to fix problems for themselves. >>> >>> The answer to Putin was not to engage or do business with him or any of his associates. >>> >>> Unfortunately, Blair was more interested in bringing their dirty money into London than ethics imho. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Chris Francis >>> 1 Feb 2021 5:19PM >>> Reminds me of the situation with Saddam >>> >>> Unintended consequences and all that.... >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Wim Shine >>> 1 Feb 2021 3:01PM >>> This same headline has been copy pasted every year since Putin showed he wasn't the western puppet they thought he was. It's been 20 years, but I'm sure if you keep predicting it eventually he will indeed be out of office. Prior protests were much bigger in scope and scale. >>> >>> Rather than worry about corruption in Russia, we should focus on the chumocracy over here. >>> >>> Russia is better off now than it was before Putin came to power, and that is why he is still able to be in charge. >>> >>> Writing nonsense based on wishful thinking won't remove him from office. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Frank Enstein >>> 1 Feb 2021 2:57PM >>> I like what I answered to someone earlier, so here it is for wider consumption: >>> Putin's like old Blue Tack - Difficult to peel off, and it leaves nasty stains. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> Tony Herbert >>> 1 Feb 2021 3:20PM >>> @Frank Enstein >>> >>> What, a bit like the British 'New Labour' and UnLib/Dum parties. Except for the colours. >>> >>> >>> Flag >>> IAIN STEWART >>> 1 Feb 2021 2:34PM >>> Much like the ghastly religions, Russians WANT to be controlled. Check out Christopher Hitchens' youtube explanation of why some folk like to be told what to do and think until death. It's called TOTALITARIANISM. >>> >>> Flag >>> A Prepper >>> 1 Feb 2021 4:32PM >>> @IAIN STEWART >>> >>> Looks like a substantial part of the UK population are of the same mind. >>> >>> >>> Flag
>>> William Rusbridge >>> 1 Feb 2021 2:16PM >>> There is indeed some opposition to Putin but a lot of Russians like a leader to appear 'tough' and neither want, or understand democracy. First the Tsars, then a communist dictatorship led by Stalin himself, then the Soviet Union.
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>>> @William Rusbridge Old hat....they said that about communism. Ask a Pole or a Czech about how well that went.
> Вот этот мне понравился. Хоть чел и называет Россию гангстерской страной (здесь давно всем забили в мозг миф про русскую мафию), но он хотя бы не лецемерен и говорит все как есть. > > Flag > Geof King > 1 Feb 2021 6:02PM > The gloating coming from the EU and US is a bit inappropriate considering the COVID riots in the Netherlands, Yellow jackets fun and the storming of Congress. The moral authority of the West is non existent. The support for this joker, Navalny stems from the debasement of state pensions. If of course you compound this with western sanctions on Russia it’s any wonder they have still got it together. Putin should retire, but I do not see Navalny as his successor, he just doesn’t have what it takes to rule the roost of gangster land.
> > > Поражают лицемеры из Конвента, что радовались и хлопали в ладоши когда стреляли в тех кто ворвался в Капитолий, а сейчас защищают фанов Навального, из которых не убит не один. Вот это - ливемерие так лицемерие. Защиты разгона мирных желтых жилетов во Франции мы от них тоже не наблюдали.
>>> P. S. Насть, я уже сегодня выложила много фот. Начну с Ричмонд Парка завтра. Я просто хочу подробнее, с как можно большим кол- вом фот. А сейчас уже утомилась. Завтра вечером — с Ричмонд Парка начну, а пока смотрите Ковидный Лондон.
>> >> Социальная реклама интересная >> "Посмотри в его глаза…"
>Тут эта реклама каждые пять минут и по телеку и по радио. Слишком много смертей просто, а локдауны очень жесткие, одно время люди правила не соблюдали, полиция только когда начала ходить и штрафовать людей за бездельное шляние по улицам — начали соблюдать.
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>>> Redhead (Expat) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение: >>>> Друзья, Телеграф , как и вся западная мидия строчит антипутинские статьи в поддержку Навального. Самое интересное, что почти каждый коммент читателей под статьей - пропутинские. Я знаю вы тут многие шпрехаете - почитайте. Под спойлером. это не тролли, многие из комментирующих - комментируют и другие статьи, никакого отношения к России не имеющии и известны на телеграфном форуме. Вот комменты под одной из таких статей. >>>> >>>> > ********* (раскрыть)Andy Webster >>>> 1 Feb 2021 6:17PM >>>> Sounds all very reasonable from a Brit point of view, but this is Russia we are talking about. The writer doesn't know his subject and is very very naive. The only possible result of any sort of "successful" revolution would be another tyrant supported by his cronies. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> George Rosala >>>> 1 Feb 2021 6:15PM >>>> If people in the Foreign Office don't know more about Russia and the Russians than people commenting here we are in serious trouble. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Geof King >>>> 1 Feb 2021 6:02PM >>>> The gloating coming from the EU and US is a bit inappropriate considering the COVID riots in the Netherlands, Yellow jackets fun and the storming of Congress. The moral authority of the West is non existent. The support for this joker, Navalny stems from the debasement of state pensions. If of course you compound this with western sanctions on Russia it’s any wonder they have still got it together. Putin should retire, but I do not see Navalny as his successor, he just doesn’t have what it takes to rule the roost of gangster land. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Mark Oxley >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:54PM >>>> The tragedy is that we fought so hard to end the Cold War that we didn’t think the end would be so quick or so complete. Let’s now finish the work properly and see if we can introduce a degree of plurality, rule of law and democracy to the great country of Russia. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> George Rosala >>>> 1 Feb 2021 6:21PM >>>> @Mark Oxley >>>> >>>> Russia is not the Soviet Union trying to export the communist ideology around the world. As such it is not our business to get involved in their internal affairs. Just curious: what was your personal sacrifice to end the Cold War? >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> tony kaminskyj >>>> 1 Feb 2021 7:34PM >>>> @George Rosala Many sacrificed by working hard to prove that capitalism made us more wealthy. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Mark Oxley >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM >>>> The shameless face of the Russian establishment is shocking. Reading pronouncements from the London Embassy is literally breathtaking, as it was to their submissions to the UN Security Council after the Salisbury incident. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Pet Cla >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM >>>> If the West keeps interfering with and trying to destabilise Russia. >>>> >>>> Russia will keep funding and orgaising Scottish referendum and woke protests to destabilise the west. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Gwyn Jones >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:51PM >>>> With no opposition party as such, because they are persecuted if they speak out, and a totally corrupt Putin and Communist Party, are we about to witness another Russian revolution. With no alternative open to the Russian people are the signs ominous. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Kieran Smithson >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:13PM >>>> Maybe Trump's good mate will now get his comeuppance too. >>>> >>>> How Trump got away with conniving with Putin is beyond me. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> martin parsons >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:14PM >>>> @Kieran Smithson >>>> >>>> Because he didn't? >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Joseph Berger >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:37PM >>>> @Kieran Smithson >>>> >>>> >>>> it's called politics or diplomacy, >>>> >>>> they avoided war, >>>> >>>> before corona the US economy boomed, Russia's went nowhere, >>>> >>>> same with North Korea, has North Korea stopped its fantasies of taking over the south and terrorizing China? no, of course not, but neither has it started a war, and certainly not with the US, >>>> >>>> >>>> in today's world those are huge achievements, and only miserably ungrateful people cannot acknowledge them >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Dun Negotiating >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:06PM >>>> I wonder how long it will be before Mr Navalny dies from a certain virus! >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Yarom Selwar >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:22PM >>>> The story that he was poisoned with 'Novichock' doesn't stack up. If the Russian state wanted him dead they could have arranged it to happen when he was first admitted to hospital after he became ill during the flight. Instead they allowed him to be transferred to a hospital in Germany where the 'poison' was then detected. That story makes absolutely no sense. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Graham Griffiths >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >>>> @Yarom Selwar >>>> >>>> Do you have a better story? >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Christopher Jennings >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >>>> What was he poisoned with then Yarom? Only Russia has a weapons grade novichok agent. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> martin parsons >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:05PM >>>> "A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin" >>>> >>>> No, what does anyone know about Alexi Navalny? He Is a chancer with no Political Party, no organisation a sheep In wolves clothing. >>>> >>>> More wishful thinking that fact from the media. A few hundred demonstrators In a few cities won't convince the 145 million Russians and they know that. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Graham Griffiths >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:21PM >>>> @martin parsons >>>> >>>> The one thing we all know about Alexi Navalny is that he has courage in spades - probably a lot more that any commentator here! >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Mark Oxley >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:52PM >>>> @martin parsons And what exactly do you think the people support about their ex KGB President for life? >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Pending Approval >>>> 1 Feb 2021 4:54PM >>>>>> A reckoning is coming for Vladimir Putin >>>> >>>> Bring it on. It can't come a moment too soon. The removal of Putin and his replacement with a democratic regime is one that would hugely benefit Russia and the wider world. It's just that I don't see this mafia state changing anytime soon. >>>> >>>> >>>> The same can be said for many despotic regimes in Saudi Arabia, Libya, Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, all the other Stans, Zimbabwe, China and of course NK. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Joseph Berger >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:39PM >>>> @Pending Approval >>>> >>>> >>>> wrong about the first, correct about the others, >>>> >>>> >>>> The Saudis are the most likely to change - albeit slowly - because more than the others they know they have to >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> John Polenski >>>> 1 Feb 2021 4:39PM >>>> Putin beats his people. >>>> >>>> Russian men beat their women. The number of deaths annually is in the thousands. In response, four years ago the Russian Duma decriminalized domestic violence, saying it should be kept "in the family". >>>> >>>> There's an old Russian proverb - "if he beats you, it means he loves you." So the men will continue to beat their "loved ones".... and Putin will continue to beat his people. >>>> >>>> Because that's Russia Today. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Kevin Alton Honeywell >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:03PM >>>> @John Polenski Supported as always by the now-schismatic Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate, and its servile Patriarch Kirill, still the KGB officer in his golden vestments. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> MELINE CAUMON >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:24PM >>>> @John Polenski Stop saying stupid things about RUssia, it a new occidental Kabal . >>>> >>>> Navalny is an occidental spy, he is an ancientstudent of Yale , and does everything he can todo harm for his country.he had aproblem with a french company... Fromt where all this money to organise these meetings in the streets? >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Paul Dee >>>> 1 Feb 2021 4:33PM >>>> Russia has indulged in aggressive behavior in recent years with the annexation of The Crmea , military action in Eastern Ukraine and threatening manoevres on the borders of the Baltic States. In their paranoia they accuse the West of seeking to undermine Russia. I doubt that the West would want the responsibility for that broken nation. >>>> >>>> >>>> At the same time Russia should be aware of China across their common frontier in Siberia. Far more potentially threatening than the West ; Oil and gas , gold and other resources that China could most certainly use just across that border. As Russia weakens China is on route to becoming the world's supreme power. Russia might be well advised to realign. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> martin parsons >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:10PM >>>> @Paul Dee >>>> >>>> You sound like the BBC. Crimea had a referendum and Is very pro Russia. The Eastern States of the Ukraine are also very pro Russia. It's only the Eastern states that want to distance from Russia and join the EU. >>>> >>>> Russia Is P---d Off because they have missiles (NATO) aimed at them only 90 miles from St Petersburg >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Christopher Jennings >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:17PM >>>> How does he sound like the BBC? >>>> >>>> Russia illegally invaded and annexed crimea and then held a rigged referendum. >>>> >>>> Russia has missiles aimed at Europe too. Putin keeps banging on about war, Europe wants peace. All putin has to do is respect the sovereignty of the European nation states, including those that were its colonies under the USSR. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Yarom Selwar >>>> 1 Feb 2021 6:00PM >>>> Rightly or wrongly, there was no need to rig the election as the bulk of the Crimea populace identify as Russian. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Paul Dee >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:26PM >>>> @martin parsons @Paul Dee Wasn't the Crimean referendum post factum after green clad soldiers were on the ground ? Easter Ukraine should have been made semi-autonomist without those mysterious green clad yet again ( and with them shooting down a civilian airliner ) >>>> >>>> As it happens I wrote comments in The Economist as far back as 2009 protesting against the expansion of NATO eastwards. So to that extent I am in your camp. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Paul Dee >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:34PM >>>> @martin parsons @Paul Dee Didn't The Crimea have the referendum post factum with green clad soldiers on the ground ? Eastern Ukraine should have been semi-autonomous within Ukraine but is now under control of yet more green clad troops. >>>> >>>> As it happens I wrote several comments to The Economist in the 2000s to protest against the expansion of NATO eastwards. To that extent I am in your camp. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> William Timkey >>>> 1 Feb 2021 6:19PM >>>> @martin parsons @Paul Dee And they shot down the KLM airliner.The "off duty " volunteers captured Donblas with facebook evidence of Russian Tanks. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Edward Seaton >>>> 1 Feb 2021 4:18PM >>>> We live in a country in which it is against the law to get married. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Robert Griffiths >>>> 1 Feb 2021 3:22PM >>>> It is better to leave the lid on Russia, to contain the can of worms inside. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Tony Herbert >>>> 1 Feb 2021 3:16PM >>>> For crying out loud, leave Russia and Putin alone. >>>> >>>> Haven't we, the Brits, got enough troubles of our own? Who are we to meddle in their affairs? >>>> >>>> This ridiculous passé, long gone cold war agenda, promoted by the EU with its greedy eyes on Ukraine, Byelorussia et al, is so absurd, unnecessary and counter-productive and is profoundly irrelevant to the UK. Indeed harmful in our global aspirations. >>>> >>>> I thought we had left the EUSSR and its works. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Paul Dee >>>> 1 Feb 2021 4:50PM >>>> @Tony Herbert Beats me why the EU would want to take on the burden of Ukraine or Byelorussia. Isn't the EU already forking out huge subsidies to members in Eastern Europe and the Balkans. It is not that all these nations have exemplary governments ( and there are others in the queue to join with their development needs prepared ) >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> The Alpine >>>> 1 Feb 2021 3:06PM >>>> A warning. Putin may well be ehem “dubious”, he maybe a criminal, however... Russia has an undercurrent of brutality (read primitivity) embedded within it that is not widely reported, read or understood in the West. This is because, to be frank, most people don’t care, but they should know that Putin is a lid an a box of potential evils far worse than him. How many times does the west have to learn not to meddle or agitate and that populations need to fix problems for themselves. >>>> >>>> The answer to Putin was not to engage or do business with him or any of his associates. >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, Blair was more interested in bringing their dirty money into London than ethics imho. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Chris Francis >>>> 1 Feb 2021 5:19PM >>>> Reminds me of the situation with Saddam >>>> >>>> Unintended consequences and all that.... >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Wim Shine >>>> 1 Feb 2021 3:01PM >>>> This same headline has been copy pasted every year since Putin showed he wasn't the western puppet they thought he was. It's been 20 years, but I'm sure if you keep predicting it eventually he will indeed be out of office. Prior protests were much bigger in scope and scale. >>>> >>>> Rather than worry about corruption in Russia, we should focus on the chumocracy over here. >>>> >>>> Russia is better off now than it was before Putin came to power, and that is why he is still able to be in charge. >>>> >>>> Writing nonsense based on wishful thinking won't remove him from office. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Frank Enstein >>>> 1 Feb 2021 2:57PM >>>> I like what I answered to someone earlier, so here it is for wider consumption: >>>> Putin's like old Blue Tack - Difficult to peel off, and it leaves nasty stains. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> Tony Herbert >>>> 1 Feb 2021 3:20PM >>>> @Frank Enstein >>>> >>>> What, a bit like the British 'New Labour' and UnLib/Dum parties. Except for the colours. >>>> >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> IAIN STEWART >>>> 1 Feb 2021 2:34PM >>>> Much like the ghastly religions, Russians WANT to be controlled. Check out Christopher Hitchens' youtube explanation of why some folk like to be told what to do and think until death. It's called TOTALITARIANISM. >>>> >>>> Flag >>>> A Prepper >>>> 1 Feb 2021 4:32PM >>>> @IAIN STEWART >>>> >>>> Looks like a substantial part of the UK population are of the same mind.
>>>> 1 Feb 2021 2:16PM >>>> There is indeed some opposition to Putin but a lot of Russians like a leader to appear 'tough' and neither want, or understand democracy. First the Tsars, then a communist dictatorship led by Stalin himself, then the Soviet Union.
>>> Redhead (Expat) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение:
>>>> ⍟ aska (aska), >>>>
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>>>> P. S. Насть, я уже сегодня выложила много фот. Начну с Ричмонд Парка завтра. Я просто хочу подробнее, с как можно большим кол- вом фот. А сейчас уже утомилась. Завтра вечером — с Ричмонд Парка начну, а пока смотрите Ковидный Лондон.
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>>> Социальная реклама интересная
>>> "Посмотри в его глаза…"
>>Тут эта реклама каждые пять минут и по телеку и по радио. Слишком много смертей просто, а локдауны очень жесткие, одно время люди правила не соблюдали, полиция только когда начала ходить и штрафовать людей за бездельное шляние по улицам — начали соблюдать.
> > Что-то меня Пфайзер начинает сильно разочаровывать. Особенно сегодняшнее сообщение из Испании >
Я только увидела твою тему. Завтра сяду внимательно читать
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>>>> P. S. Насть, я уже сегодня выложила много фот. Начну с Ричмонд Парка завтра. Я просто хочу подробнее, с как можно большим кол- вом фот. А сейчас уже утомилась. Завтра вечером — с Ричмонд Парка начну, а пока смотрите Ковидный Лондон.
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>>> Социальная реклама интересная
>>> "Посмотри в его глаза…"
>>Тут эта реклама каждые пять минут и по телеку и по радио. Слишком много смертей просто, а локдауны очень жесткие, одно время люди правила не соблюдали, полиция только когда начала ходить и штрафовать людей за бездельное шляние по улицам — начали соблюдать.
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