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  иг911
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00:39 13.03.2017
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> I don't know how state schools are financed, I don't think they are financed just from the Council tax , I honestly don't know - look it up on the UK Government website - here for instance https://www.gov.uk/education/school-and-academy-...
quoted1

А полиция, пожарники, дороги, парки?

1,500 о которых ты сказала, может быть достаточно для вывоза мусора и поддержания канализации, но не для всего остального.
Скорее всего они отдают муниципалитету кокой-то процент от подоходного налога.
Но тогда получается уравниловка - между владельцами real estate и теми кто просто рентует.
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  Redhead
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00:40 13.03.2017
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> нас когда люди ищут дом, и у них семья,школы и их рейтинг - первое что они проверяют
quoted1

У нас тоже самое. Look at the Jackson's Estate Agents' video of Wandsworth again - the schools and the houses and the streets "are covered", that's it. No parks or clubs or sports or anything.



We have Ofsted here. Every school has a rating - private school, church school, state school - whatever. So - very similar.
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  Redhead
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00:45 13.03.2017
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quoted1
Парки все -  the property of the Queen. They are Royal Parks and therefore - available for anyone free. As regards the public services' finance structure - I can't help you here - just refer to the uk. gov website for info - I am not interested in it honestly, I am just interested in what I've got to pay out.
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  иг911
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01:14 13.03.2017
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to сообщение:
> As regards the public services' finance structure - I can't help you here - just refer to the uk. gov website for info
quoted1

Council Tax: It is a tax on domestic property which was introduced in 1993, replacing the Community Charge (popularly known as the Poll Tax).
Each property is assigned one of eight bands (A to H) based on property value, and the tax is set as a fixed amount for each band.

In 2011 the average annual levy on a property in England was £1,196.[1] In 2014-15 the tax raised enough money to cover 24.3% of council expenditure.

State schools generally refer to primary or secondary schools mandated for or offered to all children without charge, funded in whole or in part by taxation.

State school (including one run by a school district) may rely heavily on private funding such as high fees or private donations and still be considered state by virtue of governmental ownership and control.
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  Redhead
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01:18 13.03.2017
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> State schools generally refer to primary or secondary schools mandated for or offered to all children without charge, funded in whole or in part by taxation.
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> State school (including one run by a school district) may rely heavily on private funding such as high fees or private donations and still be considered state by virtue of governmental ownership and control.
quoted1

Well - there's your answer. Although - our council tax is hgher than £1, 196 per year. There are a lot of taxes in this country and that's how the public services are funded. The income tax , the Corporation tax, the VAT, you name it. They will soon introduce "the tax for breathing" here.
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  иг911
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02:12 13.03.2017
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to сообщение:
> Well - there's your answer. Although - our council tax is hgher than £1, 196 per year. There are a lot of taxes in this country and that's how the public services are funded. The income tax , the Corporation tax, the VAT, you name it. They will soon introduce "the tax for breathing" here.
quoted1

This is why you have a better quality of life than in US. Tax the rich :)
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  0xC3CED1C4C5CF
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18:10 13.03.2017


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  Redhead
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23:07 13.03.2017
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> Tax the rich :)
quoted1
You can't get the blood out of the stone, it is not the rich that are being taxed. The "mansion tax" wouldn't tax the rich, it would tax the middle, same as the Inheritance TAx at the moment (which the Tories vowed to abolish - that's in their pre Election Manifesto). Because in London - the property has gone up so much but the taxes were not adjusted . The threshold for the Inheritance Tax is £375,000 for instance or something like that, which is laughable in London. A garage in Chelsea went for half a million - it was wrecked and without the planning permission to be converted - and it was sold before the auction even http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/hou... Most middle class families own homes which they bought a while ago and now they are worth a few hundred thousand to a few million (depending on the area). But people don't have more money because of it. They are "asset rich", but that doesn't affect the cashflow, it'all on paper - unless one sells the house and moves out of London but no one wants to do it - as once you lost your spot in London - that's it, it will be hard to move back.
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  Redhead
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23:14 13.03.2017
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> which the Tories vowed to abolish - that's in their pre Election Manifesto
quoted1
P.S. Sorry - I made a mistake, they vowed to raise the threshold to £500K per person, therefore making it £1 million for couples. It's not going to take everyone out of the tax in the South East of England - I mean middle classes, but it's better than nothing. They still haven't done it yet though. Everything just stopped in the country cause of Brexit. That's all they talk aboutand debate in Parliament all day long .
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23:18 13.03.2017
Друзья - что с форумом происходит - невозможно постить  -  форум глючит.
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00:03 14.03.2017
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> Друзья - что с форумом происходит - невозможно постить  -  форум глючит.
quoted1

...Большевики...
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  иг911
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00:11 14.03.2017
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> Друзья - что с форумом происходит - невозможно постить  -  форум глючит.
quoted1

Надо договорится о явочной квартире, если совсем отрубят :)
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  иг911
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00:26 14.03.2017
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> иг911 (ig911) писал(а) в ответ на сообщение:
>> Tax the rich :)
quoted2
>You can't get the blood out of the stone, it is not the rich that are being taxed. The "mansion tax" wouldn't tax the rich, it would tax the middle, same as the Inheritance TAx at the moment (which the Tories vowed to abolish - that's in their pre Election Manifesto). Because in London - the property has gone up so much but the taxes were not adjusted . The threshold for the Inheritance Tax is £375,000 for instance or something like that, which is laughable in London. A garage in Chelsea went for half a million - it was wrecked and without the planning permission to be converted - and it was sold before the auction even http://www.telegraph.co.u..... Most middle class families own homes which they bought a while ago and now they are worth a few hundred thousand to a few million (depending on the area). But people don't have more money because of it. They are "asset rich", but that doesn't affect the cashflow, it'all on paper - unless one sells the house and moves out of London but no one wants to do it - as once you lost your spot in London - that's it, it will be hard to move back.
quoted1

Похоже у вас real estate bubble.
Это очень опасная вещь, у Японцев было 20 лет стагнации когда похожий пузырь взорвался.
У меня в Бруклине было что-то похожее, до 2008. Старые таунхаузы 60-х годов (12-14 hundred sq feet) продавались за $700,000.
А когда всё грохнулось, цены переполовинились.
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01:01 14.03.2017
иг911 (ig911) писал(а) в ответ на сообщение:
> Похоже у вас real estate bubble
quoted1

You know, there's been the talk of the real estate bubble here in London since 00's now. But it never materialised, the prices just keep going up. You see - ultimately - regardless of any other factors (even the dreaded Brexit) - there is just a massive housing shortage in London anyway, so there is that underlying factor of supply shortage that keeps the prices high whatever. The luxury property market (that's not what's in my video - these are middle/upper middle class houses) is also short of property . It is not just the nouveau riche Americans, Chinese, Russians and Arabs that invest in property here, it is also banks and institutions worldwide. So - on all levels - from Council housing, through the middle class and up to the luxury market - there is shortage.
The only thing that could bring the prices down would be an interest rate hike. Because of the low interest rates at the moment a lot of people are "mortgaged up to their eyeballs", some have interest only mortgages - so even if there was a half a per cent rise in interest rates- a lot of people would find themselves struggling and that would affect the prices. But like I said - the shortage of supply overpowers all the other factors at the moment.
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  иг911
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01:19 14.03.2017
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> иг911 (ig911) писал(а) в ответ на сообщение:
>> Похоже у вас real estate bubble
quoted2
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> You know, there's been the talk of the real estate bubble here in London since 00's now. But it never materialised, the prices just keep going up. You see - ultimately - regardless of any other factors (even the dreaded Brexit) - there is just a massive housing shortage in London anyway, so there is that underlying factor of supply shortage that keeps the prices high whatever. The luxury property market (that's not what's in my video - these are middle/upper middle class houses) is also short of property . It is not just the nouveau riche Americans, Chinese, Russians and Arabs that invest in property here, it is also banks and institutions worldwide. So - on all levels - from Council housing, through the middle class and up to the luxury market - there is shortage.
> The only thing that could bring the prices down would be an interest rate hike. Because of the low interest rates at the moment a lot of people are "mortgaged up to their eyeballs", some have interest only mortgages - so even if there was a half a per cent rise in interest rates- a lot of people would find themselves struggling and that would affect the prices. But like I said - the shortage of supply overpowers all the other factors at the moment.
quoted1

If they make real estate tax - based on market value of the house (as we have in US) - older people will run away, developers will buy their properties for 1/4 price and build high-rise condos instead. This is what happened in my area of Brooklyn.
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