>У нас в Политехе церковь построили вместе со строительством первых корпусов еще в начале 20-ого века. В советское время там была военная кафедра, а теперь опять церковь. quoted1
Опиум для Народа, или плётка. При Сталине, плётка хорошо работала, можно было в Церквях делать склады. А сейчас, похоже, с плёткой не очень.
> Более того,я буквально в первый день его избрания говорил что президентами не рождаются и помочь ему быстрее войти в курс всех дел-быстрее получить хорошего,знающего президента.Сейчас же он большУю часть своего времени тратит на то что отбивается от нападок. Хорошо ли это? quoted1
Есть интересное мнение одного не самого глупого еврея о том кто такой Трамп:)))
>> Более того,я буквально в первый день его избрания говорил что президентами не рождаются и помочь ему быстрее войти в курс всех дел-быстрее получить хорошего,знающего президента.Сейчас же он большУю часть своего времени тратит на то что отбивается от нападок. Хорошо ли это? quoted2
>>> Более того,я буквально в первый день его избрания говорил что президентами не рождаются и помочь ему быстрее войти в курс всех дел-быстрее получить хорошего,знающего президента.Сейчас же он большУю часть своего времени тратит на то что отбивается от нападок. Хорошо ли это? quoted3
> Линк не открывается на телефоне. > Что-то новое о Трампе? > Трамп - это гениальная лакмусовая бумага - которая чётко определяет (и разделяет) людей. quoted1
Похожие по жизненным обстоятельствам люди - смотрят на Трампа : 1. Один видит туповатого bullshitter - популиста. 2. Второй видит гениального тактика - надежду нации.
И оба человека недоумевают, как же их впечатления могут так диаметрально отличаться?
> Есть интересное мнение одного не самого глупого еврея о том кто такой Трамп quoted1
Если бы еврей был действительно неглупый,он бы привел сравнительные примеры что конкретно сделали другие президенты в первый месяц своего правления кроме набора команды. И еще у меня к тебе вопрос как к гражданину Украины,выиграет ли Украина влившись в ряды хулителей Трампа и почему это делается на уровне ведущих СМИ? Я тебе скажу с другой стороны "лужи" это выглядит как минимум непорядочно.Это вы за компанию или есть какие практические соображения? Это также нелепо и в практическом смысле т.к. навредить вы себе можете этим очень сильно.Кто-то в вашей власти сильно хочет испортить отношения США-Украина?Не думал о том почему на Украине идет такая накрутка? Я уже далеко не первый раз замечаю и у меня это вызывает сильное недоумение. Может поговорим о том что за 2 года для своей страны сделал Порошенко которого я очень поддерживал первый год в сейчас глядя на то как ухудшилась жизнь моей мамы в Киеве понимаю что тут какая-то фигня? Та же коррупция,никаких четких планов,торговля с бандитами полным ходом..... знаете,эта ситуация уже начинает настораживать.Европу в том числе.И не надо все валить на войну. Она не мешала вам за 2 года убрать хотя бы чиновничью коррупцию и болтунов хотя бы в столице.Хотя бы.... вам уже практически зарубили ЕС,безвиз,сократили фин. поддержку...А дальше? У вас есть четкие планы со сроками выполнения или так и будете надеяться что придут дяди из-за бугра,с Москвой порешают и денег всем дадут? Или все-таки важнее что Трамп за первый месяц построил и кому войну обьявил?
Российская пресса уже “трезвеет” насчет Трампа - оказывается он уже не такой хороший
Russian media no longer dazzled by Trump By Steve Rosenberg BBC News, Moscow
For several months, the pro-Kremlin media had nothing but praise for Donald Trump.
During the US election campaign, Russian state TV bulletins and pro-government newspapers portrayed him as some kind of David taking on the Goliath of a "corrupt… Russia-hating" Washington elite. They welcomed his calls for warmer US-Russian relations. They played down some of his more outlandish comments. It was almost as if a US presidential candidate, and subsequently a new US president, had become the golden boy of Russian politics. In January he even received more mentions in the Russian media than President Vladimir Putin. But I detect a change in tone. On Friday, Russia's most popular tabloid, Komsomolskaya Pravda, accused President Trump of making "contradictory" statements about Nato. The paper points out: "(During the election campaign) Trump had called the Alliance obsolete and useless. Less than two months have passed since he moved into the Oval Office and he's already expressed full support for Nato. "As the saying goes, you need to be drunk to understand the true position of America's president."
Tillerson 'tense, confused'
Friday's edition of the Russian government paper, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, notes: "Recently the White House has been making many contradictory and incompatible statements about the foreign policy direction of Trump's team, including issues that affect Russia's interests." Reporting Thursday's meeting in Bonn between Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the new US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, the paper emphasises "it was obvious how tense and, at the same time, confused Tillerson looked".
Meanwhile, Nezavisimaya Gazeta warns against "excessive Trumpophilia". And with President Trump under sustained pressure back home over alleged links to Russia, the business daily Vedomosti doubts he will have "flexibility… in talks with Russia. "Every step he takes, particularly any concessions, will be examined under a microscope. It's even hard to believe now that there ever was a window of opportunity (to improve relations) that made it seem worth raising our glasses and toasting Trump's victory."
Readjusting focus
n recent days there has been noticeably less Trump on Russian TV. The resignation of the president's national security adviser Michael Flynn on Tuesday may have made headlines around the world. But it was not mentioned in Russian state TV's 45-minute evening news bulletin. That is extraordinary, considering that Russia was central to the story.
There are reports that state television has been instructed to scale back its coverage of the US president. The Kremlin has dismissed these as "rumours". "I was told by someone closely connected to one of Russia's main state TV companies that such instructions exist and were issued in the wake of Flynn's departure," says Konstantin Eggert, a political commentator for the independent channel TV Rain. "As far as I know, the idea is not so much to present him in a negative light, but to scale down coverage of the United States in general. Inevitably I think there's going to be a scaling down of positive coverage of Trump, too. The Kremlin's idea is to reduce expectations from this much-anticipated detente between Moscow and Washington."
President Putin's spokesman told the BBC reports of Kremlin meddling were "absolute rubbish" and "fake news". "TV channels and the Russian media have total independence to decide their own editorial policy," Dmitry Peskov told me. I asked him whether he thought it was odd that Russian TV channels appeared to have reduced their coverage of Mr Trump. "To be honest, we don't study so closely the proportions in which different stories are reported," he replied.
Celebrations premature?
Last November one Russian official admitted to me having celebrated Mr Trump's victory - with a cigar and bottle of champagne. So why has the champagne gone flat? Judging by the angry reaction of senior Russian politicians, Moscow was disappointed by Michael Flynn's departure. The Trump adviser had championed closer US-Russian ties. Then came White House comments about Crimea, making clear that President Trump expects Russia to return the annexed peninsula to Ukraine. To Russia it seemed a sudden 180-degree turn. During the election campaign Donald Trump had told ABC television: "The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were."
And on Thursday senior members of the Trump administration sounded less than enthusiastic about the idea of a rapprochement with Moscow. US Defence Secretary James Mattis said Washington was "not in a position right now to co-operate on the military level… Russia's aggressive actions have violated international law and are destabilising." US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson indicated that America "will consider working with Russia". That is hardly a ringing endorsement. Yet Donald Trump has made it clear he still believes a better relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia is good for America. Could he once again becoming the American darling of the Russian media? That will partly depend on whether the two presidents can strike up a good relationship when they eventually meet. But it depends, too, on how much pressure President Trump will be under by then, over his team's alleged Russian connections.
Слава Богу что в Кремле наконец поняли что они вредят Трампу своей любви обильностью. То что Республиканская партия была враждебна к России со времен Холодной Войны - никто не отменял.
> > ⍟ OlUS (OlUS), ⍟ иг911 (ig911), > > Российская пресса уже “трезвеет” насчет Трампа - оказывается он уже не такой хороший > > Russian media no longer dazzled by Trump > By Steve Rosenberg > BBC News, Moscow > > For several months, the pro-Kremlin media had nothing but praise for Donald Trump. > > During the US election campaign, Russian state TV bulletins and pro-government newspapers portrayed him as some kind of David taking on the Goliath of a "corrupt… Russia-hating" Washington elite. They welcomed his calls for warmer US-Russian relations. They played down some of his more outlandish comments. > It was almost as if a US presidential candidate, and subsequently a new US president, had become the golden boy of Russian politics. In January he even received more mentions in the Russian media than President Vladimir Putin. > But I detect a change in tone. > On Friday, Russia's most popular tabloid, Komsomolskaya Pravda, accused President Trump of making "contradictory& quot; statements about Nato. > The paper points out: "(During the election campaign) Trump had called the Alliance obsolete and useless. Less than two months have passed since he moved into the Oval Office and he's already expressed full support for Nato. > "As the saying goes, you need to be drunk to understand the true position of America's president." > > Tillerson 'tense, confused' > > Friday's edition of the Russian government paper, Rossiyskaya Gazeta, notes: "Recently the White House has been making many contradictory and incompatible statements about the foreign policy direction of Trump's team, including issues that affect Russia's interests." > Reporting Thursday's meeting in Bonn between Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and the new US Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, the paper emphasises "it was obvious how tense and, at the same time, confused Tillerson looked". > > Meanwhile, Nezavisimaya Gazeta warns against "excessive Trumpophilia". > And with President Trump under sustained pressure back home over alleged links to Russia, the business daily Vedomosti doubts he will have "flexibility… in talks with Russia. > "Every step he takes, particularly any concessions, will be examined under a microscope. It's even hard to believe now that there ever was a window of opportunity (to improve relations) that made it seem worth raising our glasses and toasting Trump's victory." > > Readjusting focus > > n recent days there has been noticeably less Trump on Russian TV. > The resignation of the president's national security adviser Michael Flynn on Tuesday may have made headlines around the world. But it was not mentioned in Russian state TV's 45-minute evening news bulletin. That is extraordinary, considering that Russia was central to the story. > > There are reports that state television has been instructed to scale back its coverage of the US president. The Kremlin has dismissed these as "rumours". > "I was told by someone closely connected to one of Russia's main state TV companies that such instructions exist and were issued in the wake of Flynn's departure," says Konstantin Eggert, a political commentator for the independent channel TV Rain. > "As far as I know, the idea is not so much to present him in a negative light, but to scale down coverage of the United States in general. Inevitably I think there's going to be a scaling down of positive coverage of Trump, too. The Kremlin's idea is to reduce expectations from this much-anticipated detente between Moscow and Washington." > > President Putin's spokesman told the BBC reports of Kremlin meddling were "absolute rubbish" and "fake news". > "TV channels and the Russian media have total independence to decide their own editorial policy," Dmitry Peskov told me. > I asked him whether he thought it was odd that Russian TV channels appeared to have reduced their coverage of Mr Trump. > "To be honest, we don't study so closely the proportions in which different stories are reported," he replied. > > Celebrations premature? > > Last November one Russian official admitted to me having celebrated Mr Trump's victory - with a cigar and bottle of champagne. > So why has the champagne gone flat? > Judging by the angry reaction of senior Russian politicians, Moscow was disappointed by Michael Flynn's departure. The Trump adviser had championed closer US-Russian ties. > Then came White House comments about Crimea, making clear that President Trump expects Russia to return the annexed peninsula to Ukraine. > To Russia it seemed a sudden 180-degree turn. During the election campaign Donald Trump had told ABC television: "The people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were." > > And on Thursday senior members of the Trump administration sounded less than enthusiastic about the idea of a rapprochement with Moscow. > US Defence Secretary James Mattis said Washington was "not in a position right now to co-operate on the military level… Russia's aggressive actions have violated international law and are destabilising." > US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson indicated that America "will consider working with Russia". That is hardly a ringing endorsement.
> Yet Donald Trump has made it clear he still believes a better relationship with Vladimir Putin and Russia is good for America. Could he once again becoming the American darling of the Russian media? > That will partly depend on whether the two presidents can strike up a good relationship when they eventually meet. > But it depends, too, on how much pressure President Trump will be under by then, over his team's alleged Russian connections. quoted1
Да,спасибо,я все время стараюсь быть в курсе)))Просто не говорю об этом.Вообще намного меньше пишу в форуме.Больше читаю.Иногда не выдерживаю и тогда накипевшее в длинный текст jвыкладываю)))