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Figure skating, ballet, music etc 2

  Grin
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14:52 10.12.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> You know, one thing about the Brits which is of great value is experience. You don't have it, they have it.
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Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Russians also built great industry in Middle Asia including power plants, textile manufactures and oil-gas industry. And after their (Russians) exodus in 90-s this industry stopped and Middle Asian society was thrown to barbarism.
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More than that. Unlike in Britain, in Russian Empire there wasn't any metropolis-colony type of relations. Commoners in Poland had the same rights as commoners in central Russia.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:27 10.12.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Unlike in Britain, in Russian Empire there wasn't any metropolis-colony type of relations. Commoners
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Russian colonialism wasn't of the British type, that's true. But now historians discuss a lot about relationships between territories inside the empire and national & social groups.
> Commoners in Poland had the same rights as commoners in central Russia.
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Don't compare white Western Europeans with white Western Europeans.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:35 10.12.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Replacing Assad with ISIS is not an option.
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Have you studied the revolutionary Syrian ideology? Because the Western journalists tell that rebels are as secularised as Assad and even more (paying attention to his relationships with Shia Iran).
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22:36 10.12.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> My noble lady
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I am not noble. But I guess you are being sarcastic again. Noble people are much cooler than me, nobility runs in one's veins, I don't have it, my mother in law has it though. She is one of the coolest people I have ever met here.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> at first you mock me because I post pics instead of discussing crimes of Britain, but when I create a thread about it you say you won't take part in it… huh?
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What I was trying to say is that when we discussed politics in general — Russian opposition, etc. — you sometimes dropped the conversation and started posting cute pics. As much as I love your pics, you were just overdoing it sometimes, it came across as if you were shying away from the discussion cause you lacked arguments. I still think your arguments about «freaks and assclowns» as regards the Russian opposition are very weak. I don't want to discuss the crimes of Britain. Because — the truth be known, I don't know history very well at all, so there is no point.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> As you know Muslims can be different. One mufti tells young people it’s a heroic deed to blow yourself in the middle of the crowd. Another mufti thinks it is a crime. My question is why on earth you support the guy who brainwashes young people by promising them paradise if they blow themselves? Isn’t it a better option to support another one? But your country together with US supported radical Islamists for decades. Btw, do you happen to know that Osama Bin Laden (his photo I posted above) was from Saudi nobility?
> More than that, together with Saudi Arabia you tried to implant their version of Islam in Chechnya. I remind you, that it was Yeltsin’s times. Russia was trying to be on friendly terms with western countries.
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About Chechnya — I am sure it is just your propaganda. As regards Muslims — there were lots of hate preachers here as well l- infiltrating schools, Universities, etc. You know — it was «tolerance gone mad» at one point, it is getting different now. They couldn't kick out the hate preacher Abu Hamza for 10 years out of the UK — who lived here in the West End with his family — totally free, at the expense of the UK taxpayer and ran up the legal bills in millions of pounds. May was Foreign Secretary then I think — she even went to Jordan to make sure that he wouldn't be tortured if deported — by Jordani Authorities (because that is what his legal team insisted would happen), but he kept going to the European Court of Justice which constantly overruled the UK courts. Playing by the rules doesn't always pay off you see. And here in the UK — there are some people like those hate preachers who abuse the system quite a lot.

Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> And Syria is one of the few secular states in the Middle East. Replacing Assad with ISIS is not an option
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They are telling you that all the opposition to Assad are radicals and ISIS, but it is not true. It just isn't. I met a Syrian lady here (she is half Syrian — her Dad is English, her Mom was Syrian) and she told me that when Assad came to power last time round — no one wanted him. People don't want him - the majority of people. What can you do? Nothing. Propping Assad in power will only make the situation worse and prolong their suffering.
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> Kostornaya was so good she won the grand prix golden medal for the first time in her career. Nowadays judges value technical skaters more than artistic ones. That's why everybody expected Trusova to win. Alena even left her exhibition skate dress at home, so she skated her exhibition program of a winner in her training suit
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She is amazing very classy, I told you that before I think as well. That video of an Angel was great. She is in a league of her own really. She is so beautiful, she would look great in anything she wears, so — never mind about the dress.

P. S. By the way — cause of my run yesterday I missed all the political stuff that has been going on with Brexit, but got updated at work today — everyone is talking about it still, even more so now. There was a huge pro Brexit demo in London yesterday — people marching with the slogans like «Out means out» and stuff — against May's deal, as it is not a proper Brexit. The crucial vote was supposed to happen tomorrow, but the Government calculated that May would lose the vote by a very large margin and that would bring down the whole Government, so now May is delaying the vote. She is seeking legal assurances from Brussels that the Irish backstop is not permanent. God knows what is gonna happen.
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  Redhead
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22:44 10.12.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> The best life for Whites.
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There was racism, I am not denying it. But the British rule was not all bad. That is all I am saying.
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Maybe, because the Europeans came in Africa not to teach or create the better life for everyone, but to exploit and make a wonderful life for a White minority
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There were both elements in it — creating a better life and exploitation. Think about it — why would someone go miles and miles away, risk their lives, etc. — if there is nothing in it for them? But — on the plus side — the Whites brought civilization to Africa and Christianity.
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22:51 10.12.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> ⍟ Redhead (Expat), I've found a beautiful song by a Ukrainian band. In English.
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> I am very pleased that we have music like this and that a lot of people in my country listen to it.
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It is beautiful. I got a video for you as well — new track by your favourite Clean Bandit (it is not that new, but just made it to the top of the charts here) Here they collaborated with Marina and Loui Fonsi. I don't think there is anything special in it at all to be honest, but pop is pop.

Clean Bandit — Baby (feat. Marina & Luis Fonsi) [Official Video]



You probably remember Loui Fonsi's from his collaboration with Justin Beiber and Daddy Yankee — Despacito

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23:03 10.12.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> There were both elements in it — creating a better life and exploitation. Think about it — why would someone go miles and miles away, risk their lives, etc. — if there is nothing in it for them? But — on the plus side — the Whites brought civilization to Africa and Christianity.
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When you give a little child a smartphone, it will destroy his eyesight, and take his free time for googling some trash. Decolonisation (of course, not without commies aid) went very, very wrong. Former slaves were not able to use the freedom that was given to them. Maybe, if there was some highly educated African leader like Gandhi or powerful African elite like it was in India, these lands could continue to prosper.

But in the end it became like in the USSR with women rights: men and women are equal, the law says, but in practice a lot of men beat their wives, and the last repeat again and again 'Бьёт, значит любит'.
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  Redhead
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23:12 10.12.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> When you give a little child a smartphone, it will destroy his eyesight, and take his free time for googling some trash. Decolonisation (of course, not without commies aid) went very, very wrong. Former slaves were not able to use the freedom that was given to them. Maybe, if there was some highly educated African leader like Gandhi or powerful African elite like it was in India, these lands could continue to prosper.
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I totally agree with you. But nothing could be done. Racism was such a huge issue, it overpowered everything else. Yeah, when they got the freedom — they didn't know how to use it, what to do with it — just like the Russians didn't know what to do with their freedom when the USSR collapsed. Now they are trying to convince themselves that they live in a democratic society which is «not worse» if not better — than Western societies. But the truth of the matter is Western societies are miles ahead in terms of their development — even if one takes into account all their faults. The Kremlin propaganda picks on those faults and drawbacks, overblows them out of all proportions — so that people in Russia think they have it good. Of course there are faults here and drawbacks, the West is not populated by Gods, but by ordinary people, who make mistakes. The difference is — because Western societies are democracies — those faults get addressed on a constant basis. And in Russia — they only praise themselves and hate the whole world around them. It is very sad, what is happening to them. But they will get there in the end (they will get to a good place one day I mean).

I got to go now, have a nice evening.)
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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23:15 10.12.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Clean Bandit — Baby (feat. Marina & Luis Fonsi) [Official Video]
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Yes, I listened to it and even wanted to show you it as an example of well sung song in Spanish.
> You probably remember Loui Fonsi's from his collaboration with Justin Beiber and Daddy Yankee — Despacito
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It was sung by Bieber? I listened to it tons of times, but haven't even payed attention that some parts of it are in English, and to the singer. I thought it was whole Spanish

Also, I wanted to show you another clip (cpontinuing my animation clips topic), that is by Stromae.

Especially I liked that comment on YT: 'Don't forget to follow Stromae on Twitter'

This song isn't very special (I have found nothing interesting there), but the animation clip is just amazing and exquisite.

Sometimes I am very upset that now in the Western countries high-quality 2D animation is not produced a lot. The last one I have seen was a bit primitivistic 'Persepolis'.


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  Oleksa Єromіn
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23:19 10.12.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I got to go now, have a nice evening.)
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For my time zone 'sweet dreams' are more relevant
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00:24 13.12.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> For my time zone 'sweet dreams' are more relevant
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Are you three hours ahead of us — like they are in Moscow? Or two hours? Paris and Berlin are one hour ahead of us. Most of Europe is, Moscow is 3 hours ahead. For example right now it is 25 minutes past 9 pm here.
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00:27 13.12.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Yes, I listened to it and even wanted to show you it as an example of well sung song in Spanish.
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Songs in Spanish can sound quite good, but I find one tires of them more quickly than of the ones in English. And also — I can't imagine any quality rock songs in Spanish, only pop, folk and dance genres — light stuff.

Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> It was sung by Bieber? I listened to it tons of times, but haven't even payed attention that some parts of it are in English, and to the singer. I thought it was whole Spanish
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There were a few versions of this song. In the summer of 2017 it was blaring out of every car roof top here on the streets of London. And the preferred version here was of course with Bieber.
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Sometimes I am very upset that now in the Western countries high-quality 2D animation is not produced a lot. The last one I have seen was a bit primitivistic 'Persepolis'.
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I don't know much about animation in general (that's Enot and Repteiloid's domain) , but there are lots of great cartoons here for the kids of any ages.
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00:47 13.12.2018
We just nearly had May voted out of her premiership by the no confidence vote by the Tories, it took place tonight, the results just came in (I am watching the discussion right now on Sky News). She managed to hang on, but came out of it much weaker than she was before — that seems to be the analysis by the reporters at the moment, so there won't be any rally of the sterling tomorrow or anything like that apparently. Number one — she had to promise Tory MPs that she will resign herself no later than 2019 (sometime during the year). That means a slow death, as this is what happened to Thatcher, Blair, and Cameron when they announced that they would not lead the Party into the next General Election.
Secondly, out of 317 Tory MPs — 117 voted «No Confidence». What does that mean? That means the following: half of the Tory MPs are pretty much the Government at the moment — Ministers, Cabinet servants, etc.. Those who are not on the Government payroll are called «back benchers» (they are called like that cause they literally sit on the back benches in the House of Commons), there are about 160 of them, and 117 out of 160 — it is pretty much the whole party . Cause it is the back benchers that swing all the votes on behalf of the Tories. And that happened even though she promised to resign herself in not too distant future. This is a worse result than expected and worse than 10 Downing street had been briefing prior to the vote.
Thirdly, the press is saying that the vote proved that her deal is more unpalatable than it was originally thought, as only 50 Tory MPs were supposed to be dead against it (even if it was only 50 Tories, DUP and some Labour MPs, she didn't have enough votes to push the deal through as it is), but now it turns out — it is a lot more. So she doesn't have any control of the House of Commons to push her agenda through — lacking such control even amongst her own MPs.
So — unless a miracle happens and there are some concessions from Brussels before the 21st of January (this is now the deadline for the meaningful vote) — we will be stuffed with a no deal scenario, which is unthinkable and undesirable by most. The alternatives are to extend Article 50 or even the 2nd Referendum. God knows what will happen, but the mess continues. And May limps on.
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00:50 13.12.2018
On the plus side, Christmas is in full swing here, to hell with politics.

This is how the streets of South West London look at the moment:

Houses
















Shops, etc.






















It is the most wonderful time of the year

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  Oleksa Єromіn
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12:40 13.12.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Are you three hours ahead of us — like they are in Moscow? Or two hours? Paris and Berlin are one hour ahead of us. Most of Europe is, Moscow is 3 hours ahead. For example right now it is 25 minutes past 9 pm here.
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Well, when you have written me that post it was 11 PM in Odessa. In London, I suppose, it was 9 PM.
> Songs in Spanish can sound quite good, but I find one tires of them more quickly than of the ones in English. And also — I can't imagine any quality rock songs in Spanish, only pop, folk and dance genres — light stuff.
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Yes, I haven't heard of any rock music from countries with Romance languages spoken. In my opinion, rock cannot be sung in much languages. But in English, for instance, ancient Greek and Latin poems cannot be translated saving their poetic size (in any other European language, actually, too, but Russian, Ukrainian and German change long vowels with just stressed vowels). If I am not wrong, Homer's poems are translated in prose. And in Japanese most of the European songs and poems cannot be translated also because of their syllabic language structure (2 consonants cannot follow each other: only consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel and so on) and very long words. Compare European 'I', 'ego', 'ich', 'я' to Japanese 'watashi'!

So, it's not problem at all. Maybe, in future all planet will listen to some new music genre sung, for example, in Arabic or Chinese only.

Also, have you heard to Swedish rock? Here is English singing rock group Sabaton which has also Swedish variants of their songs. Compare:

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