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  Redhead
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20:57 12.10.2018
A little bit of politics — this is a political forum after all and Britain is going through some major historical events right now as it happens.

So I am posting Boris's Tory Conference Speech.

Full speech — for those who are learning the English language it is quite nice to listen to, as he has that very posh Eton school accent- - classic and he is a very witty guy as well, his whole manner of speech — choice of words and phrase usage, etc. — reflects Eaton and Oxford education




The gist of the speech in 1.43 minutes:

'Chuck Chequers': Boris Johnson attacks Theresa May's Brexit plan

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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:20 12.10.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Well, you know. Regarding your «has to go and drink in pubs». Noone makes you, but there are traditions.
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I am just joking. Though I hate when my friends make me drink some, because I have a principle not to drink anything containing alcohol. I hope that I won't break it during my life.

Article you gave me is interesting one. I was astonished to see that the oldest pub is about thousand years old! There is nothing in Ukraine like that. Century ago, esp. in Lviv, there were a lot of really old shops, banks, hotels (maybe you know, 'profit house of write_householder's_name '). Here is Pushkin museum in Odessa, that was a hotel 150 years ago:



Also I was very excited to hear such a story from Eugen Nakonechnyi, about Jewish family shops in Lviv. Here is my translation from his memoriy book 'Shoa in Lviv':
Most of all my parents went shopping, sometimes they sent me, to the old Halpern's shop. They liked the polite owner and many things that could be bough and maybe cosy shop interior. On the entrance hanged led bell, and when you pushed the door ranged happy, melodic ringing. On that signal from the depth of living rooms which were before the shop showed up talkative Halpern with his sneaky trader's smile who used to chat about life with his regular customers. In his shop ruled old-fashioned impressiveness. Counter covered with cooper, floor polished by continuous usage, old fashioned table scales and charming flavour of cinnamon, vanilla and other spices confirmed the fact of shop's antiquity, that was built long ago in the 19th century Austria. Old people really remembered Halpern's father before that counter.

I hope I delivered with that poor translation the main idea that Nakonechnyi wanted to express.

Unfortunately it has all gone with Soviet annexation of W. Ukraine, and then with horrible Jewish genocide.
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  Grin
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21:23 12.10.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> 8 years — that's unbelievable. Yeah, absolutely gorgeous. What a graceful and delightful little swan
quoted1
She is also trains with Eteri atm. And she is age eligible for next Olympics. But it is too early to hype her. Hype can harm little girls becase not all of them can stand the fame so early.
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  Grin
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21:31 12.10.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> OMG — this is absolutely amazing, Divine
>
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Some figure skating news. Ladies quad lutz arms race is over. Alexandra Trusova won over Anna Sherbakova.
Anna did it 1st at domestic compeition (all judges were Russian, so they could ratify it in her favour).
Alexandra just did it international competition, so it will be written in history books (only international competitions count when in comes to official records).
Sasha got a flu a week before the competition. There were rumors she could withdraw, but she didn't. She also took a hard fall during warm up. Her 4lutz wasn't perfect, but it was ratified by international panel of judges (her 1st jump).


What a brave little kid she is!

P.S. I thought only Kostornaya will turn senior next year. But it seems Russian skating federation will turn senior all three little queens (Trusova, Kostornaya and Sherbakova). There were attemts to change the age when skaters can turn senior from 15 to 18 lust summer. So RuFed is in a hurry. Things starting to look grim both for Medvedeva and Zagitova now.

gtg now, swimming pool awaits me! I was missing it almost as much as I was missing our conversation )
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:33 12.10.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> By the way, talking of the most famous modern Swedish acts, have you heard of Avicii?
quoted1
Yes I listened to some of his tracks. Not the best in comparison with these you gave me to hear to. Nice music, but I am not a fan of dance music. I can hear to some tracks but not to the whole album. For example, I have found a while ago a nice vivid (I think, that it is) dance song:


Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> RIP — was 28 years old, poor lad.
quoted1
Another one in Club though not of that genre… You reminded me of a talented but also short lived singer — Amy Winehouse. I'm fond of her manner of singing.


Drugs and alcohol kill
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:36 12.10.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Otherwise — some other language music would sell better, but it doesn't.
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You don't know much of, for example, Ukrainian literature. Or Persian cinematography. But it doesn't mean that they are bad. They are just not very popular and understandable by many.
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  Redhead
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21:42 12.10.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> I am just joking. Though I hate when my friends make me drink some, because I have a principle not to drink anything containing alcohol. I hope that I won't break it during my life.
>
quoted1

Good for you. Stick to your principles, it is a good thing.
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Article you gave me is interesting one. I was astonished to see that the oldest pub is about thousand years old! There is nothing in Ukraine like that.
quoted1

Everything here is very old, that's the power of the land if you like — such an old rich historical past (London itself is 2000 years old, a very old city). Regarding the drink, especially beers — they used to drink beer here at some point more than water — I am talking about very very old times — and that is because there is a lot of fermented sugar in beer, which acts as a preservative but also used to kill infections- making it safer than water to drink, as water in the old times was not as clean as it is now (we are talking — very old times) and was a source of infection (probably like in some African countries nowadays). But — even in the Victorian times they used to give babies (!!!!!) a drop of gin — to stop them from crying. Yeah, that' s true. But most middle and upper classes here can handle the drink very well. They can have a couple of gin and tonics or a couple of scotches or a pint and leave it at that, and lead perfectly healthy lifestyles otherwise. But they drink often — a little, but often. Not like in Russia, where I remember my parents and relatives used to gather for a good old drink with zakuska and good food — but rarely, only when celebrating something — birthdays, public holidays, etc.. Here people can pop into a pub for a drink or two just for half an hour after work during the week - to discuss something, but they don't get pissed.
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  Redhead
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21:43 12.10.2018
I got to go guys, I will answer the rest later.)
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  Redhead
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20:20 13.10.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> She is also trains with Eteri atm. And she is age eligible for next Olympics. But it is too early to hype her. Hype can harm little girls becase not all of them can stand the fame so early.
quoted1

Well, I can hype her, it's very unlikely she will ever get to read what I am writing here, so no harm done. But yeah — you are right — little kids are emotionally immature and can't take a lot of stuff that comes with fame — be it in sport, art or anything.
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  Redhead
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20:23 13.10.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> I hope I delivered with that poor translation the main idea that Nakonechnyi wanted to express.
quoted1
The translation was allright, I got the gist of it, no worries.
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Unfortunately it has all gone with Soviet annexation of W. Ukraine, and then with horrible Jewish genocide.
quoted1

Yeah, the Soviets coming to power was arguably the most devastating thing thing that could have ever happened not just to Western Ukraine, but to Russia as well. There was a lot of genocide and famine there as well.
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  Redhead
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20:29 13.10.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> What a brave little kid she is!
>
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Indeed.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> P.S. I thought only Kostornaya will turn senior next year. But it seems Russian skating federation will turn senior all three little queens (Trusova, Kostornaya and Sherbakova). There were attemts to change the age when skaters can turn senior from 15 to 18 lust summer. So RuFed is in a hurry. Things starting to look grim both for Medvedeva and Zagitova now.
quoted1

It seems to me that the decision to change the age when skaters turn senior from 15 to 18 would be a good one for the sport. Why? Because at the moment -them turning senior so early kind of seems to be transforming this sport into a sport for teenagers and youngsters mainly. Is it a good thing? Maybe it is beneficial for Russia at present, cause they have so many talented youngsters and such a great coach. But things can change — you never know. I am talking about this sport in general. I don't know really.
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  Redhead
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20:33 13.10.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Yes I listened to some of his tracks. Not the best in comparison with these you gave me to hear to. Nice music, but I am not a fan of dance music. I can hear to some tracks but not to the whole album. For example, I have found a while ago a nice vivid (I think, that it is) dance song:
quoted1

Aviccii was a breakthrough act in the electronic dance genre, just like Fatboy Slim (Norman Cook) was (this was the height of my clubbing era) — and they both were mixing tracks when DJaying as they went along — live. You probably heard of Fatboyslim

Right here, right now


FatboySlim — Brighton Beach UK live



The track you posted sounds a bit 70s or 80s — like — nothing new.
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  Redhead
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20:42 13.10.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Another one in Club though not of that genre… You reminded me of a talented but also short lived singer — Amy Winehouse. I'm fond of her manner of singing.
quoted1

Amy Winehouse was not electronic dance genre at all, she was soul, jazz, blue eyed soul and rhythm and blues. Yeah, she died of crack cocaine addiction. But lots of creative characters died of drug addiction. Kurt Cobain also comes to mind. With drugs — to be honest — most people across the classes have drug experiences here — most smoked dope (marijuana) at some point in time or did Coke or Es (Ecstasy). But most people don't get addicted. Why does it happen to celebrities so much? I don't know — maybe cause they achieve fame and end up earning stupid amounts of money in a very short space of time whilst still being very young and immature. When one has still a lot to do in life to get somewhere — then they can't get addicted to drugs I guess. But here they say the worst types of «drugs», which can cause the most harm to your body- are legalized and available in the shops, and that is tobacco and alcohol. With marijuana — which they are legalizing now in the UK for medicinal purposes (it has a lot of purposes for medical use - epilepsy, , etc. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/... )—  the harm is nowhere near as bad as from alcohol — most harm comes from it being mixed with tobacco when one rolls a spliff (joint). In Holland — where it was legalized ages ago — the usage of it — recreational usage is less than in the UK, the quality of it is better, etc. It's a long subject.

Amy is a legend, was an extremely talented singer and song writer, unique. I could write pages about her, but you probably already know it all anyway, everyone does. Another great British act.
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  Redhead
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20:19 14.10.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> For example, I have found a while ago a nice vivid (I think, that it is) dance song:
quoted1

Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> The track you posted sounds a bit 70s or 80s — like — nothing new.
>
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<nobr>P. S.</nobr> Your track is nice — don't get me wrong, what I meant was — it is a compilation of recycled Michael Jackson's tracks from 70s and 80s with a touch of electrobeat. I looked it up — and no surprise, the band dedicated this track to Michael Jackson. But it did peak at No 1 in the UK dance charts in 2007, but only briefly. So — yeah, nice track and vivid but nothing new.
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  Redhead
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20:25 14.10.2018
P. S. What else I wanted to add re Amy Winehouse. Amy Winehouse was the singer who influenced another great worldwide British act — Adele. Adele claims she was and still is her favourite, Adele says that she owes 90% of her career to Amy Winehouse.
This is what Adele said about her at one of her US concerts:

The singer remembered being captivated by Winehouse’s debut album when it came out in 2003. «I know that America really caught on to her with Back to Black, but her first album, Frank … really changed my life,» Adele explained. «I went to music school when I was 14, and when I was like 15 and a half, Frank came out. I used to see her on TV or in magazine shoots with a pink electric guitar, and I used to think she was the coolest mother#####er on the face of the Earth."

Winehouse’s example encouraged Adele to grab an instrument and start composing her own music. “Because of her, I picked up a guitar, and because of her, I write my own songs,” Adele said. “The songs that I got signed with are the songs I wrote completely on my own. If it wasn’t for her, that wouldn’t have happened. I owe 90 percent of my career to her.”
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