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  Grin
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00:20 28.09.2018
I like the way Alena moves on the ice
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  Grin
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09:32 28.09.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> And also — in art — well even in ballet, sometimes when one doesn't do a good performance — the public judges them by their previous successes, reputation. Here this wouldn't wash. They can't ride on their previous achievements. If a mistake is made — there's a price to pay. It is quite harsh really.
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Actually, there is such thing as reputational scoring in figure skating. That's why some people say that figure skating isn't a sport.
For example If a newbie (a senior who is fresh from juniors) and a titled skater produce similar performances the titled one will win. Judges will penalise newbie on presentation score.
But some juniors are already well-known for their skating skills and artistry, they have more fans around the world than most of senior skaters. People call them prodigies. You can't penalise them on presentation score. I bet you have already guessed who am I talking about
But one have to be exceptional otherwise turning senior is a really hard process for a skater.
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17:10 28.09.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> I like the way Alena moves on the ice
> https://ibb.co/iBo6CU
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Yeah, like a beautiful swan or a butterfly — she is beautiful.
I am in a really great mood right now — the FCA audit is finished and it was great ! We won’t have another one again for a loooong time and our bonuses are safe. We are leaving early today — it’s only 3 pm and we are off for drinks in a jazz club actually (talking about music) hopefully I will not get too drunk — as need to be home not so late today, have a busy day with kids tomorrow so don’t want no hangover..

The mood of the moment (a colleague just snapped my pic) — off we go to celebrate !!!! Have a great Friday everyone
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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17:45 28.09.2018
Redhead (Expat),
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Clean bandit is an English group -from Cambridge I think, they mostly play electro pop style songs, dance pop etc. Yeah, they are quite good, very popular here. Although to be fair — Rockabye Baby track was such a success cause they collaborated with Ann Marie — she has the most amazing sexy voice (she is an English singer as well). Here is her latest hit everybody loves
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Her voice is really good. But in this case, in my humble opinion, the song you posted is good only because of her voice. I am not really excited about Marshmello because I listened to their most popular song and heart only some repetitive beats. But Clean Bandit are always good.

Actually, what do you think of Zara Larsson? When I heart her 'Lush Life' I couldn't recognise her voice, actually.

And here she's singing like Taylor Swift.

> she is an English singer as well
quoted1
English? I couldn't even understand it. Also with Coldplay. When I listen to that Gahan's or Turner's authentic English accent it's obvious for me. Or when I hear that English muttering in movies and TV series (pardon me, but it is really hard to understand your accent in comparison with American).

Also I am not saying that Arctic Monkeys are bad. They have nice (technically, or poetically — don't know how to say it) lyrics and interesting rhythms. But they sing just about love in teenagers' understanding what makes me annoyed.

Verves, that you gave me to listen to, are also nice. But I just don't like soft voice of singer and sound (that's why Coldplay is not my favourite also). I'm fond of harder sound, like Depeche Mode has or metal bands. Very good example of awesome rock is Dio.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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18:13 28.09.2018
Redhead (Expat), If you are talking about Pugachova, Kirkoroff etc, nobody actually listens to them a lot. There are some exceptions, but not a lot (like that horrific 'Цвет настроения синий'). There are nice voices, but I don't listen a lot to Russian pop music. For example, yesterday I found that. In my opinion, she sings beautiful:

This is not masterpiece, but I especially liked lyrics and her voice:

I can't say anything bout corruption because I don't know much about stage businesses.
> If one wants to go global — they should sing in English.
quoted1
There are many bands in Ukraine who sings in English. I saw some of them on the Internet. For example:

It sounds nice, but disgusting crap like Ariana Grande's has billion views on YT, and Maneken only 100 thousand. Do you think that somebody will listen to a band from a poor East European country (also known as 'Soviet Russia' in the West) even if they will sing in English? Not sure enough. And point at anyone from American-English stage who will give ability to some perspective singer to raise popularity.

Plus in Ukraine there is need in Ukrainian music. We don't have our stage at all. Now it's forming and I want my children to listen in future not Russian rap or pop like 'Цвет настроения…' but a high-quality national music. Even in small European countries people listen to the native sounds and in Ukraine we won't build modern nation without Ukrainian language music. Only after that we can go global.
> but music sounds better in English — it just does.
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Pardon me, but I don't even want to discuss this chauvinistic nonsense.
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  Grin
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23:59 28.09.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I am in a really great mood right now — the FCA audit is finished and it was great ! We won’t have another one again for a loooong time and our bonuses are safe. We are leaving early today — it’s only 3 pm and we are off for drinks in a jazz club actually (talking about music) hopefully I will not get too drunk — as need to be home not so late today, have a busy day with kids tomorrow so don’t want no hangover.
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> The mood of the moment (a colleague just snapped my pic) — off we go to celebrate !!!! Have a great Friday everyone!
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Congrats! You look great! Have a nice evening!
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  Grin
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23:59 28.09.2018
New Zagitova's free skate program (Carmen).



My opinion — it is typical for Alina «I'm so busy doing transitions» type of program. People also call it points grabbing type of program. Not a masterpiece, but it allows her to get huge scores.
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00:57 29.09.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Congrats! You look great! Have a nice evening!
>
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Thanks. The audit was nerve wrecking actually. We had some nasty complaints made against us, but it went very well. Phew.
Re — looking great — thanks for the compliment, but you should have seen me in my 20s — I literally turned heads here (like people couldn't help themselves but turn around and stare at me when I walked down the street, etc.) — in England it is not something that people normally do — regardless, as it is a different culture here. But my husband says to me I am one of those people who will always have «it», that I am ageless. But I guess every husband says that to his wife.

I am very pissed actually — after the jazz club, we went to another club, but I only spent like — half an hour there and got a cab home as I feel too drunk, we haven't been eating anything either- it just worked out that way. It all kicked off at 3.30 pm and it all went on till half ten -I packed away so much drink in that time — I lost count. It is just tomorrow — my oldest has a football game (he is attending a local football club — it is out of school), so we have to be there. Everyone at home is asleep, I feel like «a dirty stop out «(It is London slang for people who go out and get drunk).

Anyway — we deserved it and I had to go (be part of the team).

Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER),

I will answer in detail tomorrow some time — re English, accents, music, etc.

It was one of those evenings today

Night Crawlers-Push the feeling on (HQ Original)

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10:27 29.09.2018
Hi

Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I had to go (be part of the team)
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It can be annoying sometimes, I usually try to sneak away quietly if I feel too tired or don't like the party.
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10:31 29.09.2018
I'm mostly talk about the ladies here. But I decided to post Yuzuru Hanyu's new short program too. Two-time olympic champin, he has full package (both technique and artistry)
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11:34 29.09.2018
Speaking of Carmen, I like Alena's interpretation more
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20:31 29.09.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Her voice is really good. But in this case, in my humble opinion, the song you posted is good only because of her voice. I am not really excited about Marshmello because I listened to their most popular song and heart only some repetitive beats. But Clean Bandit are always good.
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Her voice is brilliant. You know — I posted tons of Zara Larrson's stuff in my music thread in 2015 — noone showed any interest, people who hang around in that thread of mine are rock lovers and treat any kind of pop with some sort of contempt. My daughter loves her track Yeti. By the way — Zara got to fame by winning Sweden's Got Talent (the show was designed in Britain obviously, like Russia and the States and all the normal countries around the world — Swedish telly bought the license. Those programmes, including X Factor, etc. — were invented here by the English guy called Simon Cowell .) But she sang in English, not Swedish — so that gave her the chance to go global.
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20:33 29.09.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> 'Lush Life' I couldn't recognise her voice
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Her voice there is a little bit modified electronically. Generally — different versions differ, studio versions differ massively from singing live — obviously.
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20:40 29.09.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> English? I couldn't even understand it. Also with Coldplay. When I listen to that Gahan's or Turner's authentic English accent it's obvious for me. Or when I hear that English muttering in movies and TV series (pardon me, but it is really hard to understand your accent in comparison with American).
quoted1

The English you call «authentic» is RP — received pronunciation. This is usually how TV presenters speak, etc. There are zillions of accents in England, in the UK in general. Even in London people from the South of London speak different from those who live in the North of London, etc.
But all accents are authentic. Because this is where the language was born and had existed for centuries before the States even turned up on the map. Gahan is from Essex, celebrities from Essex used to be ashamed of their accent a little. Cause it is probably the closest to Cockney. But they made a few shows here — reality TV shows like — The Only Way is Essex, which glamorized the Essex accent a little. And some people deliberately speak Cockney — to show that they are proud of their working class background, etc.
American accent originates from West country — places like Plymouth, where they speak with back «r» and stuff. But it is considered a bit stupid. The milder the accent — the posher it is. It is the same in the States. New England accent — which is the mildest there — is considered the poshest.
Here are the UK accents — not all of them, just some main ones.

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20:45 29.09.2018
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Also I am not saying that Arctic Monkeys are bad. They have nice (technically, or poetically — don't know how to say it) lyrics and interesting rhythms. But they sing just about love in teenagers' understanding what makes me annoyed.
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As they say in England — «you gotta love the teenager in you».
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> There are many bands in Ukraine who sings in English. I saw some of them on the Internet. For example:
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It is a nice band, 100 grand views is a nice start. Ariana Grande is there for the teens, all the young girls turning teenagers want to look like her, sound like her and behave like her, etc. That's her market, but it is a huge market obviously. It is the same with the British group One Direction — young good looking boys, teenage girls all over the world go nuts over them and that's who they sing for. They sell not just records, but tons of memorabilia. If you go to any school — you will see a lot of girls with back packs and pencil cases with One Direction faces on them, etc.

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