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Semyon Chudin as Prince Siegfried, and Olga Smirnova as Odette, in Swan Lake (Bolshoi Ballet)
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> And there are also some sad rumors Eteri gave Medvedeva-like programs to Alena Kostronaya too. Alena is junior, and she has brilliant artistry and top notch skating skills. But she has her own style already, there is no need for her to copy Evgenia. So, many figure skating fans are upset now because of it. I hope against hope that rumors aren't true or that they will adjust Alena's programs.
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Yeah, I agree. Evgenia is Evgenia, Alina is Alina, etc. They all have different looks, different strengths and different styles. - and that should be reflected in their own individual performances — tailored for them specifically. As Oscar Wilde used to say ««Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.» So by making those skaters who are talented themselves imitate someone else, they automatically make them mediocre.
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> And what's their problem with Polish people?
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In short (I am in a cab now — might not have time to finish my answer if the cab arrives at my lunch venue too quickly) — Eastern European immigration into the UK in general poses the problem not for the rich here or the middle classes (for them it is actually good, I will explain why), but for the working class. And people from the working class in England can be quite rough in terms of attitudes, language — they are decent people, but can demonstrate bigotry, don't bother as much with the political correctness, get into fights in pubs easily, etc. For the rich business people it was good — the wave of immigrants from the ex Soviet block — they are hard working, well educated and cheap. So it is good for their businesses — they pay lower wages to people and get more out of them. The other day there was a programme on TV about cleaners for instance. Most cleaners over 15 years ago in the hotels for instance were British, English women mainly, but they earned a decent wage. Now they pay something like £3 quid per room to cleaners (most of whom are either from Eastern Europe or from Philippines, etc) or something disgusting like that — that way hourly minimum wage is not affected (so technically the owners of the cleaning companies are not breaking any employment laws), one just have to work their guts out to clean as many rooms as possible in an hour to earn that hourly wage. Same goes for builders. Builders in this country ten years ago used to earn £4 to £5 k (thousand) per month, sometimes more — they used to earn more than people in offices, etc. Hard labour was properly paid for, properly rewarded, which is the way it should be in any civilized rich first world country like the UK. When Eastern Europeans arrived they undercut the wages of the working class people. So their standard of living has gone down dramatically over the recent years. Because there are more Polls immigrating than anyone else into the UK out of Eastern Europe — the working class here who voted for Brexit — lash out at them more than at any others. For middle classes same as for the rich — the Eastern European immigration also hasn't been bad — all middle classes work in offices mainly — the City, etc. and are very time poor. So they have to have a cleaner, a nanny, etc. And again — Eastern Europeans made all that a hell of a lot cheaper.
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>> And what's their problem with Polish people?
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>In short (I am in a cab now — might not have time to finish my answer if the cab arrives at my lunch venue too quickly) — Eastern European immigration into the UK in general poses the problem not for the rich here or the middle classes (for them it is actually good, I will explain why), but for the working class. And people from the working class in England can be quite rough in terms of attitudes, language — they are decent people, but can demonstrate bigotry, don't bother as much with the political correctness, get into fights in pubs easily, etc. For the rich business people it was good — the wave of immigrants from the ex Soviet block — they are hard working, well educated and cheap. So it is good for their businesses — they pay lower wages to people and get more out of them. The other day there was a programme on TV about cleaners for instance. Most cleaners over 15 years ago in the hotels for instance were British, English women mainly, but they earned a decent wage. Now they pay something like £3 quid per room to cleaners (most of whom are either from Eastern Europe or from Philippines, etc) or something disgusting like that — that way hourly minimum wage is not affected (so technically the owners of the cleaning companies are not breaking any employment laws), one just have to work their guts out to clean as many rooms as possible in an hour to earn that hourly wage. Same goes for builders. Builders in this country ten years ago used to earn £4 to £5 k (thousand) per month, sometimes more — they used to earn more than people in offices, etc. Hard labour was properly paid for, properly rewarded, which is the way it should be in any civilized rich first world country like the UK. When Eastern Europeans arrived they undercut the wages of the working class people. So their standard of living has gone down dramatically over the recent years. Because there are more Polls immigrating than anyone else into the UK out of Eastern Europe — the working class here who voted for Brexit — lash out at them more than at any others. For middle classes same as for the rich — the Eastern European immigration also hasn't been bad — all middle classes work in offices mainly — the City, etc. and are very time poor. So they have to have a cleaner, a nanny, etc. And again — Eastern Europeans made all that a hell of a lot cheaper.
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We have same problem in Moscow with people from Central Asia. Majority of cleaners in offices are from Central Asia, many builders, etc.
But nobody blames them. Everybody blames officials who regulate this business and employers who very often don't even bother to look for an employee in Russia. They go straight to Central Asia to hire cheap workers there.
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>> Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
>>> And what's their problem with Polish people?
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>>In short (I am in a cab now — might not have time to finish my answer if the cab arrives at my lunch venue too quickly) — Eastern European immigration into the UK in general poses the problem not for the rich here or the middle classes (for them it is actually good, I will explain why), but for the working class. And people from the working class in England can be quite rough in terms of attitudes, language — they are decent people, but can demonstrate bigotry, don't bother as much with the political correctness, get into fights in pubs easily, etc. For the rich business people it was good — the wave of immigrants from the ex Soviet block — they are hard working, well educated and cheap. So it is good for their businesses — they pay lower wages to people and get more out of them. The other day there was a programme on TV about cleaners for instance. Most cleaners over 15 years ago in the hotels for instance were British, English women mainly, but they earned a decent wage. Now they pay something like £3 quid per room to cleaners (most of whom are either from Eastern Europe or from Philippines, etc) or something disgusting like that — that way hourly minimum wage is not affected (so technically the owners of the cleaning companies are not breaking any employment laws), one just have to work their guts out to clean as many rooms as possible in an hour to earn that hourly wage. Same goes for builders. Builders in this country ten years ago used to earn £4 to £5 k (thousand) per month, sometimes more — they used to earn more than people in offices, etc. Hard labour was properly paid for, properly rewarded, which is the way it should be in any civilized rich first world country like the UK. When Eastern Europeans arrived they undercut the wages of the working class people. So their standard of living has gone down dramatically over the recent years. Because there are more Polls immigrating than anyone else into the UK out of Eastern Europe — the working class here who voted for Brexit — lash out at them more than at any others. For middle classes same as for the rich — the Eastern European immigration also hasn't been bad — all middle classes work in offices mainly — the City, etc. and are very time poor. So they have to have a cleaner, a nanny, etc. And again — Eastern Europeans made all that a hell of a lot cheaper.
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>We have same problem in Moscow with people from Central Asia. Majority of cleaners in offices are from Central Asia, many builders, etc.
> But nobody blames them. Everybody blames officials who regulate this business and employers who very often don't even bother to look for an employee in Russia. They go straight to Central Asia to hire cheap workers there.
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Most here blame the Government for it as well — that the Government doesn’t control the immigration properly, opens the doors to everyone, etc. It is not just the wages that were affected by years of irresponsible «open door» policy — it overloaded the infrastructure as well — it overloaded our NHS (National Health Service) which is free for all, thus reducing the quality of medical services, it causes shortages of free school places in state schools and is partly responsible for the housing crises. The UK is a small country and continuous immigration at the current levels is just not sustainable. They say that if it were to continue at current levels we would have to build a city of the size of Manchester every two years to accommodate everyone wanting to settle over here. And that is impossible, as building on green land is forbidden, only on brown land (that is the land recycled from the previous housing — and there is very little of it, as most people mordenise and preserve old Victorian houses and don’t want blocks of flats like in France or Germany). Hence the rise of UKIP, the Brexit vote, the swinging of the Cons to the right, etc. I didn’t want to present all the UK working class as bigots — I was just talking about those who took part in the acid attacks, etc. You were asking what their problem was and I answered, that’s all.
Since the Brexit vote the immigration is already going down, as some people are leaving because they don’t know what will happen to their rights here, they say no one will be automatically granted citizenship, others are scared to come because again — they don’t know where they will stand after Brexit.

People here ideally want the analogue of Australian points based immigration system, which will only allow the brainiest to come or those who can fill in jobs in the industries where there are genuine skill shortages amongst those who already live here. This is the system that the Leavers (Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees Mog, Bill Cash) are proposing.
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> People here ideally want the analogue of Australian points based immigration system, which will only allow the brainiest to come or those who can fill in jobs in the industries where there are genuine skill shortages amongst those who already live here. This is the system that the Leavers (Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees Mog, Bill Cash) are proposing.
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Btw, what do you think about new Austrian PM Sebastian Kurz?
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> Interesting confession
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It;s all a load of bullshit really. Russian girls don't «starve themselves» — it is just that they are naturally thinner than Western girls (in general). They have a different structure to their body, different metabolism, etc.

My husband went travelling on a round the world trip way before we met — he inherited some money from his granddad (he and his University mates went on a round the world trip, took a year out of the University back in the beginning of 90s — Australia, China, Russia, Europe, US, etc., got stuck in India for 3 months, etc) — and he told me much later on when we met — that he always dreamt of marrying a Russian girl ever since that trip — cause they were slim and narrow hipped (he thought it had something to do with Russia being next to China — people are slimmer, etc.) — it doesn't matter really, but he said to me he always wanted those genes to be passed on to his own kids.
I won't put out the photos of our kids now — don't have time — but we have beautiful kids. This combination — English +Russian is a killer. My kids eat anything they like, but they stay slim and slender, etc. and my husband says it is MY GENES,. There is nothing wrong with being just thin. It is genetics.
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> My husband went travelling on a round the world trip way before we met — he inherited some money from his granddad (he and his University mates went on a round the world trip, took a year out of the University back in the beginning of 90s — Australia, China, Russia, Europe, US, etc., got stuck in India for 3 months, etc) — and he told me much later on when we met — that he always dreamt of marrying a Russian girl ever since that trip — cause they were slim and narrow hipped (he thought it had something to do with Russia being next to China — people are slimmer, etc.) — it doesn't matter really, but he said to me he always wanted those genes to be passed on to his own kids.
> I won't put out the photos of our kids now — don't have time — but we have beautiful kids. This combination — English +Russian is a killer. My kids eat anything they like, but they stay slim and slender, etc. and my husband says it is MY GENES,. There is nothing wrong with being just thin. It is genetics.
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Glad to hear someone in the West understands it. But I think spreading 'they are starving' narrative is just a part of infowars against Russian coaches (mainly Eteri).
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P. S. I don't get it — how long can people bang on about the Russian figure skaters being thinner? It's like a bloody obsession.
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>> People here ideally want the analogue of Australian points based immigration system, which will only allow the brainiest to come or those who can fill in jobs in the industries where there are genuine skill shortages amongst those who already live here. This is the system that the Leavers (Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees Mog, Bill Cash) are proposing.
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>Btw, what do you think about new Austrian PM Sebastian Kurz?
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I haven't got a clue who PMs are there — apart from Macron and Merkel I don't really know anyone. They are all as useless as each other anyway.
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What do you think about this?

8 августа 2018 г.
Франсуа Жере | Le Monde
Евросоюз никогда еще не становился объектом столь грубого штурма

Европа, несущая потери одновременно из-за Дональда Трампа и Владимира Путина, впервые переживает настоящий экзистенциальный кризис. Однако ответственность за это ложится также на ее руководителей, пишет историк, специалист по геостратегии, основатель и президент Французского института стратегического анализа (IFAS) Франсуа Жере в дискуссионной рубрике Le Monde.

Само существование Евросоюза сегодня ставится под сомнение. Маневры, проводимые главным образом Дональдом Трампом, разворачиваются на четырех фронтах: Иран, торговля, оборона и миграционная политика государств-членов ЕС, отмечает автор статьи.

Ни в малейшей степени не считаясь с увещеваниями со стороны ЕС, Трамп 8 мая вышел из Венского соглашения по иранской ядерной программе, подписанного в июле 2015 года с Тегераном, говорится в статье.

Торговая война была открыто объявлена на саммите «большой семерки» 8 и 9 июня, напоминает эксперт. Сегодня американский президент угрожает Терезе Мэй пересмотром американо-британских торговых соглашений, если она не согласится с его мнением о жесткой версии «Брекзита».

«Что касается обороны, накануне саммита НАТО, проходившего 11 и 12 июля, американский президент, манипулируя статистическими данными, решительно заставил пересмотреть вопрос о независимости Германии в отношении России, упоминая о ее энергетической зависимости. В сущности, весьма оригинально: США отказываются финансировать безопасность Европы, которая должна тратить больше на закупку американских вооружений. О каких-либо европейских преференциях речь не идет», — отмечает Жере.

Наконец, администрация Трампа, извлекая выгоду из европейских раздоров по миграционной проблеме, способствует распаду традиционных политических партий, смешивая все тенденции. Вновь назначенные американские послы открыто поддерживают крайне правые популистские партии в Италии, Германии, Великобритании и в Центральной Европе, утверждает автор.

«В этом штурме Трамп не одинок. Все происходит так, будто другие великие державы сложили вместе свою вредоносность, дабы разрушить Евросоюз. Встреча в Хельсинки 16 июля между Трампом и Путиным сигнализирует об опасном сговоре как по этому пункту, так и по другим. Россия находит повод для того, чтобы ослабить экономического соперника и политического конкурента. Путин готов воспользоваться удобным случаем для перезапуска своего большого проекта евразийского пространства. Кроме того, он может взять реванш над ЕС, который после вторжения в Крым наложил санкции против его страны и поддерживает правительство Киева, выступая против сепаратистов Донбасса», — анализирует Жере.

Китай тоже, судя по всему, извлек уроки из европейского ослабления. Он надеялся и уповал на образование Европы-сверхдержавы, что благоприятствовало бы многополярности мира и созданию противовеса США. Констатируя европейскую неспособность к стратегической автономизации, Пекин приступил к маневрам, которые объективно ведут к расколу европейцев. Когда грандиозные амбиции «Новых шелковых путей» не встретили искреннего одобрения со стороны Франции и Германии, Китай стал разрабатывать собственную инфраструктурную программу с государствами Центральной и Восточной Европы, комментирует автор статьи.

Между тем ответственность за этот кризис отчасти ложится на руководителей ЕС, которым не удалось перейти на высшую ступень сверхдержавы с политико-стратегической самостоятельностью в важнейших областях, и как результат — отсутствие общей внешней политики, проволочки с европейской обороной, отсутствие общей финансовой и валютной политики, указывает эксперт. И наконец, европейские руководители неспособны выстроить долгосрочную стратегию по миграционной проблеме.

По всем этим причинам ЕС сталкивается со своим первым экзистенциальным кризисом. Трамп назначил ЕС в качестве врага. Неизбежное следствие: Трамп является врагом ЕС. А значит, надо противодействовать ему по четырем фронтам его атаки. Однако раскол среди стран-членов ЕС, их слабость по сравнению с американской экономикой, их зависимость в сфере обороны делают невозможным совершение единодушного рывка. Настоятельно необходимо сплотить свои ряды вокруг тех, у кого есть неподдельная заинтересованность в сохранении суверенного Евросоюза. Кто способен встать во главе? Достаточно ли будет тандема Макрон-Меркель для полной переделки Евросоюза? — задается вопросом Жере.

Источник: Le Monde
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Yeah, I know — there are those who are for Soft Brexit and those who are for Hard Brexit. Soft Brexit would be preferable, but it doesn't depend on those rebels, it depends on the EU as well. At the moment it doesn't look like the EU wants us to have Soft Brexit at all.
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This is a very interesting analysis from the BBC re Brexit — this will explain a lot to you, not that it makes the situation itself any clearer

The Brexit factions reshaping UK politics
By Brian Wheeler
Political reporter

Party politics has always been about factions — gangs of like-minded individuals getting together to promote a particular cause or point of view.

But Brexit has taken the natural tendency of MPs to plot and conspire with each other to a whole new level.

Like the rest of the country, the 2016 EU referendum divided MPs into two tribes — Leave and Remain.

For some MPs, these opposing visions of Britain's future place in the world exert a far more powerful pull than party loyalty.

They sometimes find they have more in common with MPs in other parties who share their view on Brexit than those on their own side.

They rebel against their party leadership to vote for what they see as a bigger cause, even if the term «rebel» has ceased to have much meaning in the current chaotic climate.

MPs are described as rebels one day, for voting against their party leadership, only to become loyalists the next day and vice versa.

It will only get more intense when MPs return from their summer break and gear up for the «meaningful vote» they have been promised on any deal Theresa May strikes with the EU.

Some hope, or fear, that it could lead to a permanent reshaping of the political landscape as the big parties break apart and reform into new ones.

But for now, here is a guide to the main factions in the Commons:

Theresa May loyalists


Government ministers, basically — there are just over 100 them out of a total of 316 Tory MPs — and those backbenchers who support Theresa May's Brexit policies, or at least are not willing to vote against them and threaten her leadership.

Most Tory MPs fall into this category but it is not enough for Mrs May to be sure of winning key Commons votes, even with the support of the DUP's MPs, who unlike Mrs May backed Leave in the EU referendum.

Ten members of Mrs May's government have quit in recent months — most of them because they are against her Chequers plan for post-Brexit trade, although Defence Minister Guto Bebb quit because he is in favour of it. Mr Bebb thought she had caved in to the hard Brexiteers (see below) over customs legislation.

Tory hard Brexiteers


Sixty Conservative MPs, headed by Jacob Rees-Mogg, are members of the European Research Group — a pro-Brexit lobby, who are against Theresa May's plans for trading arrangements with the EU.

They are well-organised and highly motivated and the PM's continued survival in Number 10 is, largely, in their hands.

The rebel ranks have been swollen by ex-Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson, former Brexit Secretary David Davis and his deputy Steve Baker.

Tory soft Brexiteers

The Dominic Grieve gang. Like most of his cohorts, who number about a dozen and include former minister Nicky Morgan (seated behind Mr Grieve in the picture above) who led an unsuccessful rebellion in the customs vote, the former attorney general is not a natural rebel.

Mr Grieve and his supporters inflicted the government's first Brexit defeat, in December, securing a «meaningful vote» for MPs on the final deal with Brussels, but some wonder whether his gang have the killer instinct of their pro-Brexit rivals when that final showdown happens in the autumn. Mr Grieve has said he will quit the party if Boris Johnson becomes prime minister, in reaction to a row over the former foreign secretary's comments about the burka.

Cross-party crusaders

Conservative MP Anna Soubry, a close ally of Labour's Chuka Umunna in the People's Vote campaign for another EU referendum (see below), has called in the past for the creation of a new centre-ground party.

She has also backed a call by fellow Conservative Sir Nicholas Soames — a longstanding pro-European and the grandson of Sir Winston Churchill — for a «government of national unity», made up of senior figures from different parties to sort out Brexit.

Lib Dem leader Sir Vince Cable has long been calling for more cross-party co-operation to fight Brexit. He told BBC Radio 4's Today programme «reasonable» people from all parties wanted to avoid the possibility of chaotic «no deal» Brexit.

«The conditions are there» for a change in the traditional line-up of parties, he added.

Tory second referendum group

Former Education Secretary Justine Greening is the most senior Conservative to have called for a referendum on the final Brexit deal. She was backed by Heidi Allen and Anna Soubry, and another prominent backbencher, Sarah Wollaston, has also joined the People's Vote campaign.

The Corbynites

Loyalty is highly prized by Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn — hardly surprising given the number of his own MPs who have tried to oust him — and many of the new intake of Labour MPs, as well as his inner circle, are fully behind his Brexit stance. His backing for Britain's departure from the EU — after supporting Remain in the referendum — was seen as helping the party gain votes from Leave supporters at last year's general election.

Some longer-serving Labour MPs, including former ministers from the Blair/Brown era, suspect he is a Eurosceptic at heart and are frustrated by his refusal to call for another referendum, even though he has shifted in a «softer» direction by calling for a customs union with the EU after Brexit.

People's Vote group

About 30 Labour MPs who back a new EU referendum have, arguably, been operating as a party-within-a-party for some time under the People's Vote and Open Britain banners.

Although a cross-party campaign, with the backing of the Lib Dems, Green MP Caroline Lucas and Tories Anna Soubry and Sarah Wollaston, People's Vote is dominated by Labour figures in open revolt against their leadership's policy of opposing another referendum.

Leading figures include Chuka Umunna, Chris Leslie and Stephen Doughty. They tend to drop their party label when commenting on Brexit, preferring to be described as People's Vote supporters.

The SNP

Like the members of the People's Vote campaign, the SNP's 35 MPs, led by Ian Blackford (pictured) are against Brexit and want the UK to stay in the EU single market and customs union.

They have said they won't stand in the way of a second referendum but have not committed to voting for one. One reason for this is that Scotland voted for Remain in 2016 and it did not make any difference to the result.

They are likely to vote against anything resembling a «hard Brexit».

Labour Brexiteers

Kate Hoey (pictured), John Mann, Frank Field and Graham Stringer — along with the currently independent Kelvin Hopkins — voted with the government in key Brexit votes, helping to ensure Theresa May's survival.

This is the core of a group who say they are standing up for the millions of Labour supporters who voted to Leave the EU.

Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell has urged them to stop propping up Theresa May's government. Ms Hoey is facing calls from her local party to be expelled from Labour, something she is «quite relaxed» about, and Mr Field's constituency party recently passed a no-confidence vote in him.

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See how complicated it all is? They are all fighting against each other and pulling in different directions. No wonder they can't get anywhere with the EU — they don't agree on anything amongst each other in the first place. It's all a mess.
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