> Not as civilized and tolerant as the Brits. Nowhere near. Britain's colonial past was so successful partly because they gave — not just took. In Africa black people themselves — a lot of them are saying that their best times were during the British Colonialism. A lot of countries in Africa went proper downhill after the Brits left — corruption, wars, etc quoted1
Well, my friend from France is of Vietnamese origin (and he never was in Vietman ). His best friend is muslim. Who knows, may be that's why he is so tolerant to other people
> I have a question for you ^^What do you think about synchronized swimming in general and mixed duets in particular? quoted1
I haven't followed it at all, I am totally neutral to it. You know — it is different if you are not into something. You are very much into figure skating for instance, I am not as passionate about it, but watching your videos — really starting to like it a lot now. But it takes time to get into something. Synchronised swimming is something I have never watched or been interested in, sorry to say.
P. S. I noticed here on the forum that Russians have a lot of stereotypes about the West, their stereotypes do not stand up to reality. About the French — for some reason people here on the forum idealize them and sort of overrate them, whilst having a particular unjustified hatred for the Anglo Saxons in general — Americans, Brits, etc. It is a very wrong, marred perception — don't know where it comes from — maybe your propaganda. But it certainly doesn't have anything to do with reality. It is just pure ignorance.
> "I heard someone say a black girl in a ballet is a distraction." quoted1
It's terribe. She can be a star! At least in figure skating France shows much better attitude and tolerance. Here is one of their best ladies — Mae Berenice Meite
She is a B-tier skater, but she is interesting to watch and she has some fans in France and in other countires too. And here is their best pair skaters James and Ciprès. They are really good and can be in top 5 at worlds if they are on
To be honest — tolerance is the only thing figure French figure skating federation is good at. Other than that, they are crap (i'm not speaking about skaters here, but about their officials).
Btw, I've just watched Alina's new short program video (to Phantom of the Opera music), but I won't post it here, because: 1) It is still work in progress. 2) There is so much Medvedeva in it… it was obvious from the photos, but after watching video I'm starting to think that this program was made for Evgenia in advance, but since she has left Eteri, they decided to give it to Alina
And today there were closed test skates among best Russian juniors. It's all over the news that Sasha Trusova landed 3 quads in one program. To be honest, she landed her 3rd quad with mistake, but she was able to do a 4lz in the begining of her program. It is most difficult jump in figure skating (only very few top male skaters have masterd it). If she lands it in competition she will make history again.
Anna Sherbakova also landed 4lz during warm up, but she failed it during test skate.
I wonder, which one of them will land it first at competition and make history? Probably, it will be Trusova, but ice is slippery.
And there are also some sad rumors Eteri gave Medvedeva-like programs to Alena Kostronaya too. Alena is junior, and she has brilliant artistry and top notch skating skills. But she has her own style already, there is no need for her to copy Evgenia. So, many figure skating fans are upset now because of it. I hope against hope that rumors aren't true or that they will adjust Alena's programs.
> It's terribe. She can be a star! At least in figure skating France shows much better attitude and tolerance. Here is one of their best ladies — Mae Berenice Meite quoted1
Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly like blacks — I mean I would never go out with one (I mean — I can't anyway, cause I am married, but all my life here all my boyfriends and husbands were white and white only, cause I suppose that deep down I am a bit of a racist myself.) I remember when we first came to Britain, being on the tube and looking at black faces sometimes and feeling scared — they seemed just very aggressive to me — in terms of how they looked — big noses and lips, etc. But people explained it to me here — that there is nothing to fear, it is just ignorance, they are the same people as everyone else etc. As it happens — all humans are the same and were the same looking at one point, it is just after the Yellowstone exploded — some got stuck in the North (like the English, Scandinavians, etc.) — there were no planes or trains or transport for people to travel and those up North went through Ice Age and lost the melanin (this is what makes people black). My husband told me that people were the same here — older generations. Like his Dad — when his fence was being built in his first house — there were two blacks working there and at the time there were hardly any blacks in London - in Kingston upon Thames to be precise - Greater London (they were invited from Jamaica after the 60s to help rebuild the country, etc.) and he said «Oh my God, there are some spades in my garden» (this is highly offensive) — that is because older people haven't been exposed to other races from a very early childhood. In that respect — people from the Soviet Union and from Russia as well are the same — the country was closed, under the iron curtain for over 70 years. I also can't stand their smell — at all. So it is not like I am completely free of it myself. But I must admit — living in Britain for so long has changed me a lot. What also helped was listening to black music, they are so great at it. Rap especially, hip hop, etc. Also — going to Antigua helped (we went there 3 times) — some people are so beautiful there and they are very relaxed there — not like some Jamaicans we have here — involved in crimes, drug dealing, etc. But I am a lot calmer about it now. Although I would hate for any of my kids to go out with blacks, I would have to really fight myself with it. But I have some black friends who are great people, very successful and lovely people. But still — even with me — I must admit — racism is not totally gone, but I am getting there — bit by bit. The reason I gave you these examples is to prove my point re France v Britain. A lot of Russian vatniks posting here haven't got the foggiest idea about how things really are in Britain or France as don't have any real experiences. I have lived in Britain for 30 years now and have been to France multiple times, I know lots of French who live here — London is a very cosmopolitan place. If Moscow is the capital of the former USSR, London is arguably — the capital of the world — there are tons of people here from all the Continents — Americans, Canadians, South Africans, Australians, Indians, French (over half a million in London alone), Polish, Italian, Portuguese, you name it — one really gets a massive exposure to other cultures
> I must admit — racism is not totally gone, but I am getting there — bit by bit. quoted1
I must admit, I was less racist a few years ago. For example I was mostly positive about Chinese until I was sent to business trip to Vladivostok. Our HR booked Azimut hotel https://www.booking.com/hotel/ru/azimut-vladivos... And this hotel was full of Chinese (later i've learned it's one of their favorite hotels there). I felt myself like I'm in anthill. They smell too, their behavior leaves much to be desired. Since that time my attitude towards them became more negative than positive
> Well, why would you care about what they post?) > quoted1
I don't know. why does anyone on this forum care what one another's posts are about? I am just saying a lot of it is bullshit. When I am reading the forum and see a load of rubbish and I know for a fact it is not true — I guess I somehow care. Are you suggesting I shouldn't? You are probably right. Then it makes sense to leave the forum and not to read it at all either, doesn't it? It is on my mind all the time anyway (leaving it alone). Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> And this hotel was full of Chinese (later i've learned it's one of their favorite hotels there). I felt myself like I'm in anthill. They smell too, their behavior leaves much to be desiered. > Since that time my attitude towards them became more negative than positive > quoted1
In the UK there are not as many blacks and Asians as they tell you there are. They just stand out more, but cause the whites are in the majority anyway (89% according to the last Census)— I guess it is OK, but yeah — the immigration has been a problem — from everywhere here. Even from the countries like France, Spain, Germany, Italy lots of people are trying to come to the UK (let alone Poland and the rest), there are more opportunities here. Right now the immigration is probably the most massive issue for any Government in the UK, that is what people will judge any Government on - number one. And the Government can't hide from it anymore, as it is quite clear that for a lot of people the Brexit vote was about just that. They really are taking it a lot more seriously here now. In the States they are as well. I guess there is a fine line between fighting immigration and violating that fragile liberal concept of tolerance, liberalism, etc. One should try to do it without becoming a bigot. After the Brexit vote we had lots of Acid attacks in London — on blacks, Polish people, etc. And although I am against continuous immigration — I didn't like that bit at all. That was ugly.
Anna Sherbakova's short program appeared on youtube! This choreo is new to her (she even made a mistake on the step sequence), her dress isn't ready yet, but I see potential in it. Unfortunalely the video is cut in the end, but it was worth watching for me anyway.