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13:17 31.07.2018






As a Medvedeva's fan I was laughing hard after I looked closer to Alina's new choreo
Yes, her team has all the rights to do so, but it looks like another hand me down clothes








Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I didn't get banned in the end. Had a great day at work today.
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Glad to hear it!

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I'll answer you later!
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17:56 31.07.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> By the way — just looked through the headings of the threads on the forum. Tons of negativity about Russia.
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Russian and Ukrainian threads are pretty much the same. Convention and Glory to Ukraine create tons of negativity about Russia.
Kremlebots and Antimaidan create tons of negativity about Ukraine.
Same olds, this is one of the reasons I find main forum boring.
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18:06 31.07.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> it is only hard for Russians to read stuff like this
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to be honest you also don't take it easy when somebody speaks ill about Britain. I'm sure you criticise many things about Britain when you talk with friends, but you can't stand Kremlebots if they criticise your country in the same way Glory to Ukraine members criticise Russia (lots of their statements are false and dump — thanks to Ukrainian war propaganda).

Btw, it is really easy to check what articles are most popular in Russian internet now
https://mediametrics.ru/rating/ru/day.html
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18:26 31.07.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Автор возражает: «На деле существуют три России. Первая — путинская Россия, которая зиждется на олигархической властной структуре и ее гигантской машине пропаганды.
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Очередной "эксперт", который была в России лет тридцать назад (если она вообще была в России хоть раз).

Шон тоже пропагандист. Я читаю его и вижу, как он пытается манипулировать читателями, но он хотя бы не теряет связь с реальностью в отличие от этой дамы. Его статья гораздо адекватнее
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jul/12...

Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Исключительная популярность Навального и его антикоррупционного фонда
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Бред, посмотрите фотки с дронов митингов Навального за последние пару лет. А последняя фишка, когда он призывал людей выходить на несогласованные митинги (т.е. у задержанных могли быть очень серьезные проблемы), а сам в это время уезжал отдыхать с семьей, это вообще прикол.

Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Россияне ожидают более качественной защиты от снижения уровня жизни, и многие подозревают, что цель пенсионной реформы — перенаправить еще больше денег на военные расходы и личное обогащение.
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немного правды

Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Режим пытается отвлечь внимание от спада в отечественной экономике, провоцируя конфронтации с Западом
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тупая пропаганда

redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Путинизм как формула стабильности отжил свой век», — заключает автор.
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Я с большим скептицизмом смотрю на такие заявления, так как «Путин загнал себя в ловушку» мы регулярно слышим где-то с 2003 года от каждого первого оппозиционного сми

Статья — УГ.
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> I hate Mandelson — he was behind the New Labour (and Tony Blair). The guy is corrupt as f, his nickname here was widely (in the press, etc.) — «Mandy — the Prince of Darkness».
> I met a client today at work, who is involved in politics at a high level here (I won't say anymore as bound by confidentiality and Data Protection Act) and I asked him a few questions. He reckons Brexit will go ahead, there won't be a second referendum, etc. At the moment — the clock is ticking and it is all about «who blinks first». But eventually — the solution will be found. Even if we end up with no deal and all the chaos ensues in March 2019 as a result (chaos with shipments, tariffs, people at the border, exports and imports, etc.) — sooner or later both sides will get it settled. He reckons that the City will be just dandy (I don't know — I think he is being overly optimistic, we are all a bit down here at the moment re Brexit). I asked him re the likelihood of any other country leaving the EU. He said no one else will — Germany has it nice and the others can't afford to. The UK is the only country that can actually afford to leave. The next couple of years will be tough, but we will be flying thereafter. When he left the office and I shared all this with the guys (my workmates), they said «I wonder what is he on. Definitely want some of it.» (what is he on — what they mean is what drugs he is taking — it is a joke).
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Thanks, that was very interesting piece of information. I hope Britain will ruin EU officials' plans and show everybody that you can leave EU on good terms.
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22:48 31.07.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> As a Medvedeva's fan I was laughing hard after I looked closer to Alina's new choreo Yes, her team has all the rights to do so, but it looks like another hand me down clothes
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Medvedeva is classier, there is no question about that. The other one is also a pretty girl and is probably very capable, but it is apparent from your pics that she is plagiarizing everything from Medvedeva — the moves, the clothes and even the dramatic facial expressions. Medvedeva is so talented she is probably a very hard act to follow.

P. S. As regards coaching, etc. To be honest — for coaches those kids are just material, that's it. Yes, they all aim for success. But f Eteri (that's the name I believe) decided to push them that little bit harder than others — well, is it ethical? Considering that they are just kids. I can't answer that question. I am a mom myself so I would probably be on the side of her critics.

Ages ago — it must have been about 10 years ago now — I watched a documentary about how young gymnasts (girls) were trained in the Soviet Union. And it was awful. Here it wouldn't have been allowed — it would have been classed as a child abuse. Period. They were very hard on them, treated them badly, shouted at them, there were even physical punishments, etc. Sometimes they took kids from orphanages to do that — completely vulnerable kids who had no one to stand up for them, for their rights. One such girl (from an orphanage) became a famous gymnast (don't remember her name), but then — in one of the training sessions she broke her back (actually - I think she broke her neck- edit) and became bed ridden for the rest of her life- at a very young age. No one was punished for that. No one investigated any health and safety breaches — like they would have done in Britain for instance. No one was sued, no one received any compensation. I remember crying when I watched that. I don't remember the name of the documentary, but I remembered the name of the girl. Her name was Elena Mukhina. Can you imagine such a horrific fate? First one is in an orphanage, then this happens to them. I remember when watching I wish I was an adult visiting Russia at the time and near that girl — I would have scooped her up and given her a hug and taken her to Britain.

Nowadays — we don't hear anything of the kind, just about doping. But this mentality — «anything to win» (people are seen as some sort of material — be it war, sport or anything else) — that is something that is particularly characteristic of Russia. Human life doesn't have a high price there. Period.
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22:56 31.07.2018
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Be honest with yourself. When you came on the forum, the Kremlebots and Anti Maidanists had the upper hand here, they enjoyed getting into gangs of trolls and bullying and abusing other users which were few and far between — Russian opposition, emigrants, Ukrainians.. You happily joined in with them. When the balance tumbled to the other side a little, you left. As it was not as much fun. Simples.
And you created tons of negativity about Ukraine, tried to write personal abusive stuff about other users — like Sivilla, Fly and me. You posted pics where Ukrainians were pictured as pigs, etc. When there was no need to — at all, there was too much of such ugly stuff here already. Now that a lot of Russian opposition are writing here and the Ukrainians are not bullied as much by the ugly Kremlin trolls — I don't feel the need to even write on the main forum. What's more — I feel like «patriots» are in the minority now and I even feel sorry for them (not all of them — just those kind ones, who are truly lost because of the propaganda). I want to post something nice about Russia — so that they don't feel as bad and angry, but I don't know what. I don't want to lie, etc.
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23:13 31.07.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> to be honest you also don't take it easy when somebody speaks ill about Britain.
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Poppycock. I don't mind criticisms about Britain at all — I mind the lies, I mind — when those who have never been here, don't speak the language, don't know the culture, the country — come up with judgements based on continuous lies and Putin's propaganda machine, which whips up hatred in Russia for the West, whilst his entourage comes to our country — buy property here, educate their kids here, keep their money here, invest here, etc. You should watch them here — you should hear what they say about your Mother Russia here. I met some civil servants here — who milk Russia and fancy their life here. That is just so hypocritical — it's unreal.

Secondly, Russians are not good enough to criticise Britain. They live in a country which is far less developed, less democratic and backwards. All they can do is look up to Britain and learn from Britain. Sorry but true. Even when the French criticise Britain I am thinking — they are a lot less democratic than the UK, but at least they are closer to us in terms of their stage of development. So are the Germans, the Americans, the Canadians. But not the Russians. You live in a dictatorship at the moment with no laws, no proper social system, no protections, no respect for people's rights. How the f dare you criticise the most developed democracy in the world? Your oligarchs trust your court system so little — they prefer the High Court of London. The list of examples is endless.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Ukraine members criticise Russia (lots of their statements are false and dump — thanks to Ukrainian war propaganda).
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What propaganda do they need? You annexed their territory, stirred up a nasty war in another. What do you expect from them? The other day Putin was suggesting for a referendum to be carried out in Donbass. How dares he? It is not his country. Russians on this forum behave appallingly — they gloat at Ukrainians, disrespect their country, etc.- gloat at the fact that they took Crimea by force, that people are suffering and dying in Donbass. Ukrainians are doing a lot of gloating at Russia's misfortunes as well, but it is not them that started the aggression against your country — it is the other way around. So their position is understandable.
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23:24 31.07.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Шон тоже пропагандист. Я читаю его и вижу, как он пытается манипулировать читателями, но он хотя бы не теряет связь с реальностью в отличие от этой дамы. Его статья гораздо адекватнееhttps://www.theguardian.com/fo otball/2018/jul/12...
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Sean lived in Russia for over 20 years. But he is a Brit and sees things as a Brit. There is a massive gap in the mentality. That is why you see him as a propagandist — he just doesn't see things in Russia like you see them. He can't, he is not Russian.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Бред, посмотрите фотки с дронов митингов Навального за последние пару лет. А последняя фишка, когда он призывал людей выходить на несогласованные митинги (т.е. у задержанных могли быть очень серьезные проблемы), а сам в это время уезжал отдыхать с семьей, это вообще прикол.
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Well, at least he is exposing some truths about the depth of corruption in Russia. He is a brave man, he went to prison himself. He is not asking his followers to take risks that he hasn't taken himself in the past. Does he not deserve a holiday or something? Is that what you are suggesting?
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> тупая пропаганда
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No, it is the truth. And your «patriots» give away that truth on this forum day in day out — the truth about your blunt poisonous disgusting propaganda. The «supremacy» of your regime (it is in quotes because there is none — apart from on your telly) is primarily about Putin «throwing his weight around» with the West — challenging the States, etc (supposedly). It is funny.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Я с большим скептицизмом смотрю на такие заявления, так как «Путин загнал себя в ловушку» мы регулярно слышим где-то с 2003 года от каждого первого оппозиционного сми
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It would be good if he did corner himself into a trap of some sort. It would be good for Russians themselves first of all, but I don't expect the likes of you to understand that concept of course. That is too much to ask.
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What does that mean?

P. S. I know you so not gonna like my answers, I wish I didn't start it with the article. But I am allowed to speak my mind, I live in a free country after all.
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23:30 31.07.2018
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> Secondly, Russians are not good enough to criticise Britain. They live in a country which is far less developed, less democratic and backwards. All they can do is look up to Britain and learn from Britain. Sorry but true. Even when the French criticise Britain I am thinking — they are a lot less democratic than the UK, but at least they are closer to us in terms of their stage of development. So are the Germans, the Americans, the Canadians. But not the Russians. You live in a dictatorship at the moment with no laws, no proper social system, no protections, no respect for people's rights. How the f dare you criticise the most developed democracy in the world? Your oligarchs trust your court system so little — they prefer the High Court of London. The list of examples is endless.
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>> Ukraine members criticise Russia (lots of their statements are false and dump — thanks to Ukrainian war propaganda).
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> What propaganda do they need? You annexed their territory, stirred up a nasty war in another. What do you expect from them? The other day Putin was suggesting for a referendum to be carried out in Donbass. How dares he? It is not his country. Russians on this forum behave appallingly — they gloat at Ukrainians, disrespect their country, etc.- gloat at the fact that they took Crimea by force, that people are suffering and dying in Donbass. Ukrainians are doing a lot of gloating at Russia's misfortunes as well, but it is not them that started the aggression against your country — it is the other way around. So their position is understandable.
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P. S. Also — in Britain the press is different, the mentality is different, the attitude to the authorities is different. Brits criticise themselves plenty, open any paper and you won't find anything nice about the authorities, health service, the country in general. Someone can say something good about any Prime Minister — when they are not in office anymore. That's it. And even that — any Prime Minister has to deserve that in the first place. In the West they criticise the authorities when they are in power. In Russia — they praise them when they are in power, but when they are gone (usually when they die — hardly ever we have seen power change in Russia in any other way) — they rubbish them senseless and worship the new leader. Fact.
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23:32 31.07.2018
I did a 4 hour run this afternoon (they let me off work after lunch - they are very understanding about this in my office, they respect me for it, as it is for charity) — for the first time in weeks. I have a charity half marathon event (13 miles) on Saturday morning. I thought I would pull out of it — as haven't done enough training, but today's run was great. I am staying in.
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23:38 31.07.2018
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My mates think that I am a mug to believe what he says, that he wouldn't tell me the truth even if he could — as he would fear that I could go to the newspapers, etc. — the client is a high profile person, a newspaper name. And I am not to make too much of it. They said that he came to set up an investment trust, that's it, the convo (conversation) — is not to be taken seriously, he was just being a pleasant gent, trying to make me feel positive about Brexit. I am not allowed to talk about anything that was said in that meeting to anyone anyway — it is a breach of Data Protection Act.
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23:40 31.07.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Medvedeva is classier, there is no question about that.
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Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> but it is apparent from your pics that she is plagiarizing everything from Medvedeva — the moves, the clothes and even the dramatic facial expressions
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It's her team that makes her do it. What are they thinking about? Do they think nobody will notice? Alina isn't junior anymore (it's ok when juniors copy some moves from top skaters). Alina is reigning olympic champion, she deserves better than that. I'm a bit dissappointed in her choreographer Daniil Gleihengaus. It looks like Eteri isn't investing much in Alina now because she thinks no way Alina or Evgenia will be capable to win next OGM. New generation of Eteri skaters (Trusova, Sherbakova and Kostornaya) are much better than Alina and Evgenia were in their age. May be it's just a conspirancy theory. I only hope all these girls will stay injury free and will show us their best in the future.
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23:46 31.07.2018
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> P. S. As regards coaching, etc. To be honest — for coaches those kids are just material, that's it. Yes, they all aim for success. But f Eteri (that's the name I believe) decided to push them that little bit harder than others — well, is it ethical? Considering that they are just kids. I can't answer that question. I am a mom myself so I would probably be on the side of her critics.
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There are several approaches. First approach — the earlier kids learn most difficult elements the better because it will be easyer to do them in the future when they turn senior.
Another approach is kids should learn difficult elements later.
Well, I've seen how Trusova falled several times before she learened her 4s and 4t. If she was adult, she could injure herself by those falls. I doubt I could get up after such a fall. But she managed to stay injury free (thanks God). But it is heartbreakin to see them fall.
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23:48 31.07.2018
I am exhausted, so switching off the forum now, will read your answers properly and reply tomorrow, as I want to do it properly, don't want to write rubbish when I am tired.
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