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  Grin
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23:25 23.06.2018
Redhead (Expat),
Here the gidelines
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/showthread.php...

They use combinations of these two

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23:28 23.06.2018
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> And it's not like all Russians are fans of Russian ladies. It's international forum and it's like 33% Russian ladies fans are from Russia, 33% are from USA and 33% from other countries. I think there are so mant US fans because figure skating is still popular there but their ladies are having really hard times since 2010 (or even earlier). So they are following the leaders.
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I am sorry I might sound anti American or anti Canadian or whatever here, but the true democracy is not in the States or Canada, it is in fact in Britain. The States have always been too right, Canada — too left. Both are very young countries, both the products of Britain. Britain is a much wiser and older country and the attitudes are much more impartial and the people are much more democratic, they rule much more in their own country. It is just because here this is a much older country you see. And you see it everywhere — in the attitudes to the politicians, country, world events, etc.

For example — look how Brexit result was announced — there are so many forces fighting, so many opinions, the public opinion here is so taken into account. Ordinary people can come up to Johnson and ask him "Johnson what the fk are you doing? What is going on here?" etc. It is a totally different relationship between the authorities and the people here than in other countries. I am not a British Vatnik, I really mean it, it is different here. Britain really IS a beacon of democracy in the world. It is true. Things are still not perfect here , but the World is not perfect. Great Britain is still the best example this world can offer at this particular point in time.

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23:29 23.06.2018
I gtg now, I'll answer the you later (tomorrow)
See you
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23:31 23.06.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> I gtg now, I'll answer the you later (tomorrow)
> See you
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Have a good one (slang for have a good morning/evening/whatever — just time).
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23:53 23.06.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:

Well, there is another thing here to consider. If it is a private forum owner, like Politforums.net as well — a private forum with one owner, then there is no recourse to justice through some sort of public guidelines of how a forum should be run. Because when someone organizes a forum all by themselves — they spend their time, resources on it, etc. Then they do have a major say on how it is run. It is capitalism at the end of the day. Some things might be done for advertising purposes, etc.
But — don't lose heart, if you like figure skating and it is an informative forum, keep going there and contributing to it and that. Where appropriate of course. At the end of the day — most people out there don't visit such deep thematic forums and they love figure skating just for what it is — a beautiful sport and the Russian figure skaters are beautiful and they are famous in the whole world for their superior mastership in this sport and nothing is ever gonna change that. So all is good.
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13:14 25.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> But in Ukraine the propaganda seems different — more Western like
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More like North Korea to me
One of so called «journalists» at one of Poroshenko's channels («Прямой» или как-то так) openly proclaimed that their task is to make alternative reality to the Ukrainians, because it is «war with Russia», so these actions are somehow justified
As far as I remember it was Богдан Буткевич




He is a nutter, but majority of them are nutters, so I think it's a common point of view
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13:20 25.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Church is there as another instrument of Putin's poisonous propaganda
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Because Russian patriarch confessed this?

03.05.2014
«В условиях современной Украины не может объявляться единственно возможной и общеобязательной лишь одна из политических позиций. Это гибельно для страны. Убежден, что от попыток утвердить свою точку зрения силой следует отказаться раз и навсегда. Призываю все стороны воздерживаться от применения оружия, решать все вопросы путем переговоров. В краткосрочной перспективе Украине нужно по крайней мере перемирие, в долгосрочной — прочный и неотъемлемый мир»
http://www.patriarchia.ru/db/text/3642068.html

I see it as a call for peace.
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13:36 25.06.2018
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> don't even consider your Church a proper church and the faith of your people to be a proper faith.
quoted1
Well, unlike you Church of England does consider РПЦ as a proper church. You know it's Church of England who was trying since late 19th century to get recognition among orthodox churches, not visa versa.

In my opinion if faith is just another cute tradition for you, you shouldn't make a confessions about how good/bad others faith is.
I'm telling you this because from what you have wrote it is 100% clear that you aren't into it

P. S. The problem you are referring has deep roots in and it is called "Сергианство"/"Неосергиан ство"
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80...
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14:30 25.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Well, there is another thing here to consider. If it is a private forum owner, like Politforums.net as well — a private forum with one owner, then there is no recourse to justice through some sort of public guidelines of how a forum should be run. Because when someone organizes a forum all by themselves — they spend their time, resources on it, etc. Then they do have a major say on how it is run. It is capitalism at the end of the day. Some things might be done for advertising purposes, etc.
> But — don't lose heart, if you like figure skating and it is an informative forum, keep going there and contributing to it and that. Where appropriate of course. At the end of the day — most people out there don't visit such deep thematic forums and they love figure skating just for what it is — a beautiful sport and the Russian figure skaters are beautiful and they are famous in the whole world for their superior mastership in this sport and nothing is ever gonna change that. So all is good.
quoted1
Actually it got worse when Canadian fans started to troll in Russian ladies thread and all who tried to stand up to them got «rogers». According to unwritten rule Russian ladies thread (same as Canadian ladies thread, US ladies thread, Japanese ladies thread etc.) is a heaven for their fans, in other words it is like Convention home thread to you.
Imagine aska freely trolling in Convention home thread and all who was bikerning there (but aska) got plenty of «rogers» for that. It was to much for many fans (me included). One american fan of Russian ladies made an independent forum devoted to figure skating and people started to go there.
Now Goldenskate doesn't allow such things even for Canadian fans but it will be remembered.

Actually their strategy backfired because now Russian ladies 2018−2019 season thread is visibly more discussed than any US or Canadian skaters thread (200+ pages vs 40 pages)
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/forumdisplay.p...

I think you are right, they behave like that because they are jealous and nobody wants to discuss Canadian ladies. Well to be honest there are like 30+ Russian ladies worth discussing and only 2 Canadian. I believe that makes all the difference.
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22:42 25.06.2018
Redhead (Expat),
Oh, you got banned again. Here is a little queen Alena Kostornaya dancing to Carmen to raise your spirits. I watch this perfomance when I'm sad. Usually it helps)


P. S. I have a proposal. How about separating rogers on Russian forum from rogers on English forum? I mean, you shouldn't get banned on English forum if you got banned in Russian forum and visa versa.
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00:54 28.06.2018
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Thanks, how very sweet of you, bless. Actually — I don't mind the bans on this forum and quite often expect them (I write accordingly, knowing full well there'll be a ban) — cause this forum can be a distraction if one gets into it too much and for me it is not a good thing, the real life is too demanding.
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00:57 28.06.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:

That's a very funny cat, I love cats. We have a little kitten Fifi — she is a black cat, I will post the pics here when I have time — she is so funny. We got it a couple of months ago as promised to my daughter a kitten if she got the second Distinction in her ballet exam and she did. But we are so happy she is with us now.
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01:02 28.06.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Actually it got worse when Canadian fans started to troll in Russian ladies thread and all who tried to stand up to them got «rogers». According to unwritten rule Russian ladies thread (same as Canadian ladies thread, US ladies thread, Japanese ladies thread etc.) is a heaven for their fans, in other words it is like Convention home thread to you. Imagine aska freely trolling in Convention home thread and all who was bikerning there (but aska) got plenty of «rogers» for that. It was to much for many fans (me included). One american fan of Russian ladies made an independent forum devoted to figure skating and people started to go there. Now Goldenskate doesn't allow such things even for Canadian fans but it will be remembered.
quoted1

Well, the Convention forum thread is a «home thread», trolls are not welcome there at all. Any group thread on this forum is «the home» of that group, where the members can just relax and chat and forget about the fights on the Main forum, so nasty trolls are banned. If that wasn't the case, there would be no groups on this forum at all. And the Convention is the finest and most respected group on this forum.

Re your forum — I don't know, but I trust there was something wrong going on. Well, I hope it will get better for you and the other fans of your team. But like I said, don't take it too seriously (look who is talking — I am laughing at myself here, as I take things too seriously myself on this forum, where I know I shouldn't ).
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01:11 28.06.2018
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Faith is not another «cute tradition» for me. One has to go through a lot of church studies and help from the Catholic Church to become a Catholic — same goes for the Church of England. And I went through all of that in earnest. Truth is the Catholic Church is very similar to the Church of England (almost identical in their celebrations, beliefs, guidelines, etc). The Church of England used to be part of the Catholic Church till Henry the 8th's times — that is when he took the Church here out of the Papal Authority and declared the Monarch of Britain to be Head of the Church of England and the Church of England to be a separate Church.

This was the reason:

Essentially for one reason, The Pope thought that he could bleed England dry of funds to finance his schemes and thus dictate policy, particularly foreign policy, to all his vassal states. Henry objected and so began the dissolution of the monasteries through which Papal power was largely exercised.
Not unusually in those days, Henry wished to divorce Catherine, his wife to whom he had been married for 24 years because she was nearing the end of, if not well past, her child bearing years (she was 48) and, crucially, had not produced a son. He asked the Pope to annul the marriage. The Pope, mindful of the fact that if Henry died without issue the Pope would find a more pliable Monarch, refused.
So Henry set up his own Catholic Church of which he was Leader, to serve his state and no other.
As a direct and immediate result - the fortunes of England took a turn for the better.

P. S. As regards faith, I just believe in God.

And yeah, probably I shouldn't judge other people in their faith, that's wrong. We only go to church to celebrate Christmas and Easter, as don't have much time for anything else.
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