> I completely agree with you on that. It's not just your opinion, it is a well-known fact that professional sports are not good for anyone in the long run. My point is skaters' careers are usually very short but at least they live like ordinary people after their career is over, some of them take part in the shows at the age of 40+. May be it could be different if their career was longer. You know it is always sad for a fan when a favorite skater retires. But at least you know that they won't spend a life of a disabled person afterwards. >
You are just having a common feeling of remorse of a professional sports fan, that is all. On the one hand, you are cheering when little tiny kids — tiny not just in terms of their physical, but also emotional development — are pushed by their parents, coaches, whoever — to perform all sorts of tricks on the ice for the likes of you to enjoy. But in essence, it is like training a bear to ride a bike in a circus. When it comes down to it — it is cruel. Those kids don't fully make their own choices, they are kids — easy to manipulate both emotionally and physically. As for their career — long or short — makes no difference, the damage is done during them growing up. This is the other side of such demanding professional sports as figure skating, football, rugby, boxing, gymnastics, etc. There is a heavy price to pay.
> Probably you got me wrong here. I wasn't trying to prove that Zelensky appearance on the political scene is as massive as Brexit. Not at all. He is just another puppet nothing more. But Poroshenko's defeat was like a breath of fresh wind, many people in Ukraine believe Zelensky will improve Ukraine-Russia relations. I'm skeptical about it. quoted1
No, I got you spot on. If you didn't mean to compare, you wouldn't have brought up the subject of Zelenski in the same context. Being sceptical is OK, it is just as regards Brexit — your scepticism is partially based on the lack of knowledge. Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
Not really, it is a very crass expression, I feel ashamed of myself that I used it, I am sorry. Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Iet's wait and see, will they move the date of Brexit again quoted1
The easiest answer is always «let's wait and see», it is much harder to make the right prediction about the future. Cause one might be wrong. I am not afraid to be wrong, so I am free to judge and predict something, why not? If I turn out to be wrong, so be it. But I do have a gut feeling about things sometimes that turns out to be right.
> Why? Is he a kind of pariah in your establishment? quoted1
Not really a pariah. But Farage has always had the points with the electorate for being anti establishment, he has always positioned himself as such — himself. It is his niche. He has never seriously wanted a seat in Westminster himself. UKIP only rose in the polls because of him, his tremendous appeal to people. It has always been the party of one man, one man band — Nigel Farage. When the Brexit vote happened, Farage decided to leave politics, cause he trusted the Tories under May's leadership to take the country out of the EU. That has always been his dream, I don't care who funds him — this is totally true, and it is not like he is richer than those in Westminster in terms of wealth. By the way, his wife is from Germany, would you believe it? Anyway, at that point he didn't see the point of being the UKIP leader, he said he was going to distance himself from politics as his goal was achieved and accomplished. But he remained a member of UKIP. He only quit UKIP when Tommy Robinson (remember I mentioned him in connection with the very far right) was invited to join UKIP. Farage had always fought very hard here in Britain for UKIP not to be considered a Nazi Party and when Robinson joined, he left the party out of protest. But once he left the Party — it disappeared in the polls, even in the European Election — it was dragging way behind the Brexit Party which Farage organised only 2 months (!) ago. People love him here, especially where their views on the EU are concerned. He is like a trigger for the Tories to change their policy. When May started dithering with the EU and Brexit, Farage returned to politics straight away, organised this Brexit PArty and won the EU election. Which was an amazing feat. Again, he did it out of protest to what he saw as the betrayal of Brexit by the establishment. A lot of people agree with him, as they obviously voted for him — again and straight away, he hadn't even campaigned for long prior to the EU election vote taking place. But again — out of protest to the establishment.
That is why it is so important to have all sorts of opposition to the establishment, it doesn't necessarily mean they will take power in the country, but their opposition can change and influence the direction those in power are taking in their decision making, it can change their policies. Like in this case. Now the Tories realize that they won't win any General Election ever again unless they deliver Brexit, cause the EU election is like a poll — of what people want.
At least I never hear of a skater commiting suicide because she wasn't able to lose some weight.
There is always a price to pay, not just in sports. Ambitious parents push their children to the limits in music, sports, study etc. What should we do about it? Stop listening to the music or stop watching skating/ballet?
> The easiest answer is always «let's wait and see», it is much harder to make the right prediction about the future. Cause one might be wrong. I am not afraid to be wrong, so I am free to judge and predict something, why not? If I turn out to be wrong, so be it. But I do have a gut feeling about things sometimes that turns out to be right. quoted1
Oh, I made a prediction, you called it silly or whatever. Now «let's wait and see», because as for me there is no point in arguing about it too much. Aren't you tired of arguing about Brexit?
I first thought it was gonna bi Costa D'amleria, but it is — one villa n Madeira and one in Al Garve — self catering, just property — Jon bought. You know — he hates me buying rings, especially expensive ones, at auctions, he wants to invest everything in property — houses, etc.
The deeds to the Property in Spain and Portugal are coming in the post the day after tomorrow. I am speechless to be honest, I honestly don't know how Jon paid it outright, considering — that we still have some mortage on the flat in New Greenwich, which we are renting out. This is proper crazy, I honestly can't get my head around it at all