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11:02 21.05.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Why people just can't be happy for others?
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That figure skating forum has something in common with this political forum because people there also pick a team and try to make fools of others teams and belittle others faves.
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11:17 21.05.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
>> Why people just can't be happy for others?
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>That figure skating forum has something in common with this political forum because people there also pick a team and try to make fools of others teams and belittle others faves.
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I understand what you are saying, but at the same time — how can one get a kick out of putting down someone who is genuinely more successful? That defies the object of the exercise, surely. Those Russian ladies are genuinely more successful and win more titles than the rest, etc. It reminds me of the sad characters on this forum who keep posting endless pictures of slums from Britain, the US and other developed countries to prove that life in Russia is not that bad. They would be better off not doing that. As by doing that they achieve the opposite.
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14:18 21.05.2019
More news of the EU election predictions. We are going to end up with a totally different EU Parliament on Friday morning

European elections latest polls: Brexit Party forecast to win most votes

T
he latest polling for the European Parliament elections shows that Nigel Farage's Brexit Party is likely to gain the most votes in the UK, as establishment parties are forecast to lose their majority across the European Union.
The vote takes place in the UK this week, on Thursday 23 May, with the Europe-wide results expected on the evening of Sunday 26 May.
These are expected to see establishment parties across the continent suffer, both at the hands of the populist-Right as well as resurgent liberal parties.
The result is likely to be a more fragmented European Parliament, with the centre-Right EPP and centre-Left S&D forecast to lose their combined majority.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/21/...

There will also be a debate Farage v Vince Cable — Wednesday at 9 AM, should be quite funny — Farage is great at debates on the EU.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/20/...

Vince Cable is the Lib Dem leader, they are the most Remain Party in the UK, but they hardly have any seats in Westminster. This was the last debate — years ago — before the Referendum — Nick Clegg v Farage (they had several debates, when Nick Clegg used to be the Lib Dem Leader and Deputy Prime Minister in coalition with Cameron's Tory Government), just gives you an idea

Clegg v Farage LBC European Union Debate Highlights
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15:43 21.05.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I understand what you are saying, but at the same time — how can one get a kick out of putting down someone who is genuinely more successful? That defies the object of the exercise, surely. Those Russian ladies are genuinely more successful and win more titles than the rest, etc. It reminds me of the sad characters on this forum who keep posting endless pictures of slums from Britain, the US and other developed countries to prove that life in Russia is not that bad. They would be better off not doing that. As by doing that they achieve the opposite.
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Yes, there are similarities with people who post pictures of slums.
You know, a completely flawless skater do not exist. Every skater has least favorite jump/spin/step etc. Haters are nitpicking, trying to find imperfections in top Russian ladies technique and completely ignore the flaws and imperfections of their own faves. By doing that they try to prove Russian ladies are cheating/overscored/do not deserve their titles etc.
But in fact Russian ladies are pushing figure skating forward. Before Evgenia turned senior a clean flawless programs in ladies figure skating were very rare. Evgenia was unbeatable for 2 seasons in a row because she skated a clean program after clean program with lots of difficult transitions, difficult entries, varied arms positions and creative exits to her jumps. Now all top ladies do that. It’s a new standard for ladies figure skating.
Next wave of Eteri skaters (AAA) can do ultra-difficult jumps (just 3 years ago people were saying that it is impossible for a lady to do a quad jump, only men are capable of doing quads blah blah). Now other ladies are learning quad jumps too.
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15:45 21.05.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> More news of the EU election predictions. We are going to end up with a totally different EU Parliament on Friday morning
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EU can end up with completely eurosceptic parliament one day)
It will be fun to watch that circus.
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15:54 21.05.2019
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> You know, a completely flawless skater do not exist. Every skater has least favorite jump/spin/step etc. Haters are nitpicking, trying to find imperfections in top Russian ladies technique and completely ignore the flaws and imperfections of their own faves. By doing that they try to prove Russian ladies are cheating/overscored/do not deserve their titles etc.
> But in fact Russian ladies are pushing figure skating forward. Before Evgenia turned senior a clean flawless programs in ladies figure skating were very rare. Evgenia was unbeatable for 2 seasons in a row because she skated a clean program after clean program with lots of difficult transitions, difficult entries, varied arms positions and creative exits to her jumps. Now all top ladies do that. It’s a new standard for ladies figure skating.
> Next wave of Eteri skaters (AAA) can do ultra-difficult jumps (just 3 years ago people were saying that it is impossible for a lady to do a quad jump, only men are capable of doing quads blah blah). Now other ladies are learning quad jumps too.
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Well, I am not at all surprised that the Russian ladies are doing so great at the moment. Number one — this is one of those sports that the Russians are naturally good at, being a winter country, etc. Number 2 — Russian women have the right built, physique for things like gymnastics, figure skating, ballet — naturally, there is no getting away from that. They are more narrow hipped, slimmer, prettier, etc. They are naturally more artistic. There is no getting away from that, it is nature. It is the same as the blacks in Jamaica for example — are so great at running, like Bolt for instance. The Caribbean is full of people who have been literally bred to be the way they are — as the English colonialists literally shipped the fittest slaves from Africa to the Caribbean for about a century in the past. I know it is all wrong, etc — but these are the facts. And now the Russian team has this genius coach, who seems to have discovered some sort of a winning formula. The others should learn from that rather than trying to bash it.
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21:21 21.05.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> And now the Russian team has this genius coach, who seems to have discovered some sort of a winning formula
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Eteri is a good psychologist who can help her skaters to handle the pressure. And she is also well-know for understanding the rules to the point some people accuse her of making points-grabbing programs (as if it is a crime or a cheat).
If you look at Alena's «Angel» program with a rule book in your hands you'll see that every step, every move of her finger is getting her extra points, but you don't think about points at all when you watch Alena. So I'm fine with a points-grabbing program if it looks like an art. I bet if there were plenty of skaters like Alena with her «points-grabbing' programs figure skating would be much more popular.

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> The others should learn from that rather than trying to bash it.
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Oh, they really do. It's funny that many Japanese, Canadian, US, Korean junior and senior ladies are trying to copycat Alina, Evgenia and other top Russian ladies at the same time some of their observers and fans are trying to prove Eteri is a monster and should be stripped of her coaching licence.

Sorry for talking too much about Eteri. Let's move on)
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21:47 21.05.2019
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> Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
>> The others should learn from that rather than trying to bash it.
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>Oh, they really do. It's funny that many Japanese, Canadian, US, Korean junior and senior ladies are trying to copycat Alina, Evgenia and other top Russian ladies at the same time some of their observers and fans are trying to prove Eteri is a monster and should be stripped of her coaching licence.
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> Sorry for talking too much about Eteri. Let's move on)
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It's allright, no worries. It is just for me — I am not a figure skating fan, I do not go into details, nitpicking and all that, I just see it as a viewer, as if I was watching a beautiful ballet performance piece, or music, or dance performance, I see it as an overall picture. As our Angelina says, the dance performance is a picture of sorts, it is an overall experience. How that is achieved — the beauty of it, the perfection — well, it is behind the scenes, it is not particularly interesting. Alena's Angel is absolutely wonderful, it is just is. Beyond that — most people don't care really, they just like the experience of watching something like this.

When I was in the Bolshoi Theatre, I experienced watching a Sugar Plum Fairy Dance by Kaptsova, it was magical

Bolshoi Ballet — The Nutcracker — Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy — Ovation
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22:06 21.05.2019
You know, in the industry I am in — the broking industry — you have to be a bit like a ballerina — appeal to everyone, bridging the differences, achieving a deal, soft power skills, etc — you literally work your nuts off (well, I have no nuts, I am not a man, but you know what I mean), that is why I am worn out and swearing on the forum a lot of the times, I just let off steam — not drunk or high or anything like that, just want to let off steam, that's all.


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22:21 21.05.2019
Very nice vids. Thank you.
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22:48 21.05.2019
Btw, remember I told you Zelenski is Kolomoisky's puppet?
Zelenski just appointed Kolomoisky's personal lawyer as a new head of his administration
https://gordonua.com/news/politics/zelenskij-naz...
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00:27 22.05.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Btw, remember I told you Zelenski is Kolomoisky's puppet
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Dearie me, everyone is someone's puppet in politics you know. Well, in Britain — at least people are aware of what is going on and the red line is corruption. In Russia — that red line does not exist, in Ukraine it doesn't either. You know, I meet a lot of people in my job, from different countries and we have this investor — a very rich guy from Montenegro (former Yugoslavia) and he quite openly talks about the mafia there, all the goings on — it is like — switch off the lights now, it is totally crazy. I am very lucky to be in the UK and work and live here, there is some rule of law here, there is a lot less corruption, etc. Sometimes I think to myself why Germany is doing so well or the UK — the people are different, they are very law abiding, honest, they hate corruption. I remember even when I was at school here, my Mom tried to bring some presents for the teachers at my school and they were not accepted, they said «No», we do not need anything, this is our job and we are happy to have your daughter here. It is totally different here, totally different mentality.
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09:26 22.05.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I remember even when I was at school here, my Mom tried to bring some presents for the teachers at my school and they were not accepted, they said «No», we do not need anything, this is our job and we are happy to have your daughter here. It is totally different here, totally different mentality.
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I remember my mom was always trying to persuade me to give teachers and doctors sweets and other presents. I always hated it and refused to take that presents to doctors. It’s not because I’m greedy, not at all. It’s okay to give flowers and sweets to your favorite teacher at Teacher’s day, but it’s not okay to give him presents on regular basis just because he is doing his job.
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18:42 22.05.2019
What do you think about it?
https://twitter.com/bbcpress/status/113097206516...
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20:47 22.05.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
>> I remember even when I was at school here, my Mom tried to bring some presents for the teachers at my school and they were not accepted, they said «No», we do not need anything, this is our job and we are happy to have your daughter here. It is totally different here, totally different mentality.
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>I remember my mom was always trying to persuade me to give teachers and doctors sweets and other presents. I always hated it and refused to take that presents to doctors. It’s not because I’m greedy, not at all. It’s okay to give flowers and sweets to your favorite teacher at Teacher’s day, but it’s not okay to give him presents on regular basis just because he is doing his job.
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You are right of course, there shouldn't be any bribery. Over here Christmas Day is one big exception to that rule, because you are allowed to give Christmas presents to whoever you like and nobody will be able not to accept/turn it down, as that is considered ultra rude. But it is usually the PTAs (Parents and teachers associations) that organise that kind of stuff at schools here — collections by the parents, etc and they buy one big present from everyone.
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