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  Redhead
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20:53 16.06.2018
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> I was sad she lost olympic gold medal to Alina (because Alina's jumping technique is better). But on the other hand I'm glad Evgenia will have strong motivation to stay for another 4 years (till next Olympics).
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Very nice. She slides on the ice like a butterfly. But the other one is good at the jumps and it is sport at the end of the day, so she will probably win next time as well.

Re sport.

Are you following football at all or not? I wanted to stay away from it, but my husband, son and workmates are dragging me into it. On Friday I watched the Spain v Portugal in Marlborough Arms — it's an American Pub in the West End, we all went there with my workmates — I didn't wanna go, but they literally dragged me in there. I must admit — even though a draw, the game was ultra beautiful, the best ever. My workmates say that the winner this time around will be Belgium. You see — all the best players from the national countries' teams play here in the Premier League Clubs. And they said that this year Belgium has a phenomenal team — best players from Manchester City, Man United, etc. -are playing in the Belgium National Team. With Spain -the reason they were weak against Portugal (Spain is a much stronger team) — is cause their coach has been in the job for just a short while before the Championship.

Anyway, I am trying to give you a tip — bet on Belgium, they are considered outsiders by the bookies (slang for betting shops), which means the odds will be great in case of their win.
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21:04 16.06.2018
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> Nice fanart
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I don't like the picture to be honest. Doesn't do her justice. The facial expression is that of fear rather than what the artist probably meant — artistic spirituality. This art is crap, sorry to be blunt (another meaning of the word «blunt» is «too direct», for example — «to put it bluntly» — you would start a sentence with that if you want to "cushion" a very direct statement or even an insult )
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10:26 18.06.2018
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> Not because of how they appear in your twitter, but you are one of those «patriots» yourself. Just a more refined one I guess. But you definitely don't think «out of the box» that is for sure. It is understandable, cause you are subjected to the Kremlin propaganda and you ended up to be one of those highly susceptible to it. Cause as you say — you used to rebel against that shit before (putinism, corruption, totalitarian set up, etc.) and now you accepted it. It happened to a lot of people in Russia. Including my uncle — when the Crimea events happened — he became very «Krymnash» and even I did for a short while to be honest (and I don't even live there, but watched lots of RT at the time and kept writing complaint after complaint to the BBC News Complaints department that they were biased and not covering the events properly), etc. Now I don't talk politics to him at all as we just start arguing, the other day he was telling me that the Skripals' case was staged by May, etc. etc. I just cut the conversation short and said «Let's just talk about family business only and leave politics aside, it ain't worth it, as we are never gonna agree».
quoted1

I'm Russian patriot without any quotes. I don't embrace corruption. I don't see Putin as national hero. I see him as a lesser evil (that's why I don't vote for him, but I also don't rebel against him).
If you think Kremlebots (for example) aren't real patriots, why do you think Glory to Ukraine are? Btw, calling Glory to Ukraine Ukrainians as if they represent the people is a bit to much. They represent minority. Many Ukrainians on this very forum think different. Even more Ukrainians outside this forum think different (look at nationalistic parties ratings, they are at all-time low level). Same goes to Convention (your group also represents minority). But nobody is calling Convention the Russians. It would sound weird
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10:36 18.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> We have our «vatniks» here as well, but they are few, not even the minority — more like — fringes. In your country they comprise 80% of the population. And that is the difference. This is a much healthier society as more developed — whichever way you look at it. Ratings of 70% of approval are impossible here for any politician, even Thatcher didn't have such ratings and that was decades ago. To a westerner — what is happening in Russia is a regime.
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You know British community much better, so I trust your option.
But on the other hand you always write smth like Britain is a beacon of light and democracy, best country in the world etc. Sounds uber patriotic to me.
Since you count me in «refind vatniks» (I'm probably okay with that ) I expect you apply the same standards to British patriotism)
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10:47 18.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I don't like the picture to be honest. Doesn't do her justice. The facial expression is that of fear rather than what the artist probably meant — artistic spirituality. This art is crap, sorry to be blunt (another meaning of the word «blunt» is «too direct», for example — «to put it bluntly» — you would start a sentence with that if you want to «cushion» a very direct statement or even an insult)
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It isn't made by a professional painter. Very often fans do such drawings and people usually cheer for them even if their work isn't good according to professional painter standards. My bad, should have taken into account you aren't a figure skating fan.
When I measure fanart I usually ask myself - can I do smth like that? Usually I can't.
I sent Evgenia a gift (a teddy bear) once. But gifts which fans made themselves are more appreciated
For example this cake from Evgenia's favorite anime



She noticed it among dozens of teddy bears, flowers and other stuff )
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11:03 18.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Very nice. She slides on the ice like a butterfly. But the other one is good at the jumps and it is sport at the end of the day, so she will probably win next time as well.
quoted1
Oh, it is complicated. Alina was a winner according to the old rules. Evgenia lost by a hair. New set of rules give Evgenia a certain advantage (0/7 layout won't help Alina this time).

Anyway, I seriously doubt Alina or Evgenia will win next Oly.
I'm not sure they even make it to the team.
Ladies figure skating is on the verge of revolution. Juniors are learning quad jumps. No senior lady ever landed a ratified quad jump at competition (they were some attempts though).
That's why many fans have already written off both Medvedeva and Zagitova. Trusova (in the center) landed 2 ratified quads at junior world championship 2018. Anna Shcherbakova (she is on the left ) did 4lz-3t-3lo combo during her practice (no one ever did it before, even adult male skaters). So many people expect these young quadsters to dominate figure skating in the next 4 years.



But some fans are very sceptical about it, as you can see
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11:19 18.06.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Are you following football at all or not? I wanted to stay away from it, but my husband, son and workmates are dragging me into it. On Friday I watched the Spain v Portugal in Marlborough Arms — it's an American Pub in the West End, we all went there with my workmates — I didn't wanna go, but they literally dragged me in there. I must admit — even though a draw, the game was ultra beautiful, the best ever. My workmates say that the winner this time around will be Belgium. You see — all the best players from the national countries' teams play here in the Premier League Clubs. And they said that this year Belgium has a phenomenal team — best players from Manchester City, Man United, etc. -are playing in the Belgium National Team. With Spain -the reason they were weak against Portugal (Spain is a much stronger team) — is cause their coach has been in the job for just a short while before the Championship.
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> Anyway, I am trying to give you a tip — bet on Belgium, they are considered outsiders by the bookies (slang for betting shops), which means the odds will be great in case of their win.
quoted1
Thanks for advise. I'm not following football closely...



but since everybody around me follows it, I know the news)
I want to tell you one funny thing. A friend of mine always bids some little money against his favorite team (he also does it in figure skating). If his team/skater wins - he is happy, in other case he has some prize money to lift his spirits )

P.S. It looks like Mexico has made the first sensation on this tournament
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11:34 18.06.2018
I just can't. The entire figure skating fandom admires Evgenia's dresses and costumes





Why on Earth our top pair skaters and ice dancers are dressed like that?

> some examples (expand)
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20:12 18.06.2018
Probably, best answer to your question about football WC 2018 in Russia
https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/10083860...

Comments are hilarious
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21:49 18.06.2018
Redhead (Expat),
I see you got banned.
Here some positive piece of music for you
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20:29 19.06.2018
funny skating skills test in Eteri school)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkLFVfTlsrr/
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21:10 19.06.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> I'm Russian patriot without any quotes. I don't embrace corruption. I don't see Putin as national hero. I see him as a lesser evil (that's why I don't vote for him, but I also don't rebel against him).
quoted1

It can't be possible that in a country of 150 million there are no other alternatives for people to choose from. You have to ask yourself a question — why is that? Maybe because those in power usurped too much of that power and the system is not healthy, although very suitable for those in power cause the main thing for them is to continue to stay in power? This is just very unhealthy for the country, don't you see it? It puts massive breaks on its development and the corruption is something that usually flourishes in so called «regimes with no alternatives». Politics is like economics you see or sport — one needs competition to progress. If there is no competition, there will be regression.
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Brits are very self critical as a society as a whole. The press is very critical of everything — our politicians, health service, economy, system, etc. If you open any newspaper and read it — you would think you live in a hellish third world country rather than in the developed world. You would consider most papers here «Anglophobic», but that is not the case. It is just a very critical approach here to everything and I think it is a healthier approach than that of praising oneselves all the time and putting down those who genuinely are more developed. Which is what the Propaganda is busy with doing in Russia. It is bad for yourselves in the first place, not those who you put down — Americans, Brits, etc. They couldn't care less really, I doubt it that they are even aware of it to be honest.
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21:17 19.06.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> But on the other hand you always write smth like Britain is a beacon of light and democracy, best country in the world etc. Sounds uber patriotic to me.
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It is just the truth and I would be saying that even if I lived in Germany or France. Democracy in Britain is not ideal, but it is the best compared to other countries — even European countries. I will give you an example. Before signing up to the Lisbon Treaty in the EU (this is when the biggest transfer of power occurred from the national governments to the EU institutions) — referendums were held in France, Holland and Denmark (I don't remember now about Danish Referendum), but both in France and Holland people voted «No». Their governments disregarded those results and continued to do referendum after referendum until they got people to vote «Yes». Such a thing is impossible in Britain.

There are some things in this world that are just objective. The fact that the democracy in Britain is more developed is because it is a very old civilization — the first Parliament was born here before Russia even existed as a country, the first revolutions occurred here, etc. It is just an older, more developed society you see.
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21:18 19.06.2018
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> https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/10083860...
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> Comments are hilarious
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I am glad that Russians are being hospitable and there have been no major incidents or fights so far. It is nice to hear. By the way — Shaun Walker — here on the forum he is considered to be one of the main Russophobes as his articles about Russian politics are always ultra critical. But as you can see from his reporting of the World Cup — he is not a Russophobe, just writes the truth.
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