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  Redhead
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20:39 21.02.2019
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Let's hope they won't. But the Russians are not spiteful by nature, they are just adversely affected by their propaganda. Well, when it comes to politics that is.

I got to go now, have a nice evening)
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  Grin
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20:40 21.02.2019
I gtg (and drink some beer, porbably ) now, see you later
Have a nice evening too

P.S. lol at the amount of comments it will be another holy war
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/figureskating/do...

OMG, it's alrealy 3.5 thousand comments in less than an hour
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  Grin
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23:11 21.02.2019
Redhead (Expat),
So, Evgenia's skate started some kind of holy war at figure skating forums. To be honest, I don't pay a lot of attention to it because I already know who will tell this or that and why. For example, very often Poles see ladies figure skating as some kind of beauty contest. So they will praise Konstantionva because she is the prettiest according to their standards


Others will tell Gubanova deserved to win. Remember I told you about the girl who could be another Kostornaya?


But I'm really interested in your opinion about these performances
Who do you like more — Medvedeva, Gubanova or Konstantionva?
I'll post my own opinion later
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  Grin
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23:18 21.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER),
I came across a video about Ukrainian elections and possible frauds.
I know you probably don't like her, but can you put your attitude towards Montyan aside and tell me your opinion about this video?
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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23:22 21.02.2019
Grin (25771), I haven't heard of her. I usually prefer texts. But I will watch it and tell my opinion, though I suppose I won't give a full account. I haven't voted yet, and haven't seen any 'carrousels', 'miner- buses', 'отрывочные талоны' etc IRL.
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  Grin
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23:27 21.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> ⍟ Grin (25771), I haven't heard of her. I usually prefer texts. But I will watch it and tell my opinion, though I suppose I won't give a full account. I haven't voted yet, and haven't seen any 'carrousels', 'miner- buses', 'отрывочные талоны' etc IRL.
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  Redhead
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13:44 22.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Who do you like more — Medvedeva, Gubanova or Konstantionva?
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It is a bit like a beauty contest. But it is not just about the physical beauty, although all of them are physically beautiful in their own way — they all have fit physical bodies, nice hair and make up, lovely dresses etc. — it is more about an overall beauty — the beauty of movement, charisma, the overall performance. I like Medvedeva's the most. There is more soul in her performance, even though the other girl might seem prettier off the ice. That is just my opinion though, I am not imposing it on anyone.
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  Redhead
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13:58 22.02.2019
The Labour split is more about the Antisemitism after all. Cause more resignations from Labour followed this morning — but they are not joining that new Independent group and not in favour of the second Referendum. They are just saying that the culture in the LAbour party is that of bullying, intimidation and Antisemitism.

By the way, at the moment we have another thing being widely discussed here in the papers, etc. It is about Shamima Begum. This was a Muslim British girl who ran off to fight for ISIL in Syria when she was 15. She was groomed and radicalised here by some Islamic hate preachers. She joined the camp in Syria where they groomed Jihadi brides to marry them off by the arranged marriage to Jihadi fighters in Syria. She was married off to some Dutch Isis Muslim fighter. That was 4 years ago. She is 19 now. During these four years she had two kids with her Jihadi husband, both of whom were killed during the shelling and fighting in Syria. Now she is pregnant with another kid. She is in a refugee camp in Syria, cause the ISIS was nearly defeated there and like many Jihadists who went to fight there from the European countries — she wants to come back to Britain now. Because she is not the only one and there are many people like that — there is a lot of debate going on here about this. She gave an interview to the Times correspondent in the camp — saying that she doesn't regret anything and didn't mind seeing the beheadings and other horrid things that the ISIS fighters did in Syria. Most Tories are saying that she is not to come back to Britain, she made her bed and she can lie in it. Corbyn says that she should be allowed to come back. Some people say she was just a kid when she was groomed, radicalised, etc. There is a huge debate about such cases at the moment.
The Home Office stripped her off her British Citizenship, which she is appealing. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/19/isil...

Corbyn thinks she should be allowed to come back and taken care of.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/21/sham...

What do you think?
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  Grin
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14:13 22.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
>> Who do you like more — Medvedeva, Gubanova or Konstantionva?
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> It is a bit like a beauty contest. But it is not just about the physical beauty, although all of them are physically beautiful in their own way — they all have fit physical bodies, nice hair and make up, lovely dresses etc. — it is more about an overall beauty — the beauty of movement, charisma, the overall performance. I like Medvedeva's the most. There is more soul in her performance, even though the other girl might seem prettier off the ice. That is just my opinion though, I am not imposing it on anyone.
quoted1
Thanks for your opinion. I like Evgenia performance the most too. But if I were a judge i'd put Anastasia Gubanova on the 1st place, Evgenia on the 2nd and Konstantinova on the 6th place

I bet judges were thinking like — today Gubanova was slightly better — it was one of her best performances - but we all know that unlike Evgenia she can't win worlds or other important international competition. Evgenia potential is much higher right now.
In case of Konstantinova, she made 2 mistakes which are costly but aren't visible to a naked eye of a casual viewer. Since Konstantinova represents CSKA — very influential club — judges turned a blind eye to her mistakes, her posture (she skates in «>» position too much), etc.
This is how it works…
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  Grin
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14:26 22.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> What do you think?
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Actually, I was going to ask you about this girl. I know that frankly speaking ISIS territory is less than 1 square kilometer now and in a few days it will perish
Anti-ISIS fighters allowed women, children and some jihadists who paid them to evacuate. As for me she is not a little kid, she admitted she has no regrets, so it is right to strip her from British citizenship.

Russia has similar problem. In fact thousands of Chechens went to ISIS in the past. Now Ramzan Kadyrov uses our taxpayers money to return hundreds and hundreds of these jihadi wives and their children back to Russia. They show us some videos where they regret, tell us they want to come home etc. But there are also some accidental videos where some of them tell otherwise. I think each case should be considered separately.
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14:38 22.02.2019
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> Anti-ISIS fighters allowed women, children and some jihadists who paid them to evacuate. As for me she is not a little kid, she admitted she has no regrets, so it is right to strip her from British citizenship.
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> Russia has similar problem. In fact thousands of Chechens went to ISIS in the past. Now Ramzan Kadyrov uses our taxpayers money to return hundreds and hundreds of these jihadi wives and their children back to Russia. They show us some videos where they regret, tell us they want to come home etc. But there are also some accidental videos where some of them tell otherwise. I think each case should be considered separately.
quoted1

I think it is not as straightforward as this. Some can say that they regret what has happened, but it might be a lie — it might be that they are saying this just to be granted a return to the country where they came from. It is rather likely that they are being dishonest. Because when you are so radicalised, it is very unlikely that all of a sudden you become de radicalised in one go — at the wave of some magic wand. At least she is being honest. And yeah — she is not a kid anymore, but when she ran off as a schoolgirl at 15 — she was a kid and she was radicalised here in Britain — without the knowledge of her parents, who are moderate Muslims and were devastated when she ran off. It is very easy to radicalise someone who is just a teen and you could argue that the society overlooked this problem. Also — she was born in Britain, so who is to say she is not a British citizen anymore? And also — in these four years she has been through a lot — losing two kids, etc. Now her son was born last Sunday and there is a question of his wellbeing as well to consider. She was damaged by all the Islam hate preaching here, in this country and that is the root of the problem. One could argue that she is a victim herself and was let down by our society here.

Anyway, I got to go now, speak later.
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14:39 22.02.2019
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> speak later.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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16:54 22.02.2019
Grin (25771), I cannot say much on Montian's video. She tells interesting things, but my views on our domestic politics are general and superficial so I cannot judge her statements.

But I hope that our rules are really equal for everyone as she says, though very bad.
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13:14 23.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> ⍟ Grin (25771), I cannot say much on Montian's video. She tells interesting things, but my views on our domestic politics are general and superficial so I cannot judge her statements.
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> But I hope that our rules are really equal for everyone as she says, though very bad.
quoted1
Thanks. She also said that Suprun's medical reform is «п***ц, летящий на крыльях ночи» . Do you agree or Suprun reforms aren't that bad?
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13:16 23.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
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> I think it is not as straightforward as this. Some can say that they regret what has happened, but it might be a lie — it might be that they are saying this just to be granted a return to the country where they came from. It is rather likely that they are being dishonest. Because when you are so radicalised, it is very unlikely that all of a sudden you become de radicalised in one go — at the wave of some magic wand. At least she is being honest. And yeah — she is not a kid anymore, but when she ran off as a schoolgirl at 15 — she was a kid and she was radicalised here in Britain — without the knowledge of her parents, who are moderate Muslims and were devastated when she ran off. It is very easy to radicalise someone who is just a teen and you could argue that the society overlooked this problem. Also — she was born in Britain, so who is to say she is not a British citizen anymore? And also — in these four years she has been through a lot — losing two kids, etc. Now her son was born last Sunday and there is a question of his wellbeing as well to consider. She was damaged by all the Islam hate preaching here, in this country and that is the root of the problem. One could argue that she is a victim herself and was let down by our society here.
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> Anyway, I got to go now, speak later.
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I also think that if you allow that people to enter your country you should have some kind of de radicalisation program. We have smth like that in Russia but I'm not sure it works.
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