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  Redhead
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19:52 13.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> There was famine in other parts of USSR too. It wasn't like Russians were starving Ukrainians. It was more like communists were starving ordinary people
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I agree it was the communists starving everyone, it was not the Russians starving the Ukrainians. The system was bad, so a lot of people suffered so much — both in Russia and in Ukraine.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Sounds like blasphemy Ukrainians were told they will prosper soon after joining EU. Look what their PM (Yats) told them
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This is what I call cheap populism. Do not get me wrong — I wish Ukraine well and if joining the EU helps them reform their system — they should do it. But to be honest — so far — only Visegrad group countries managed to improve their standard of living, reduce corruption and reform themselves (Visegrad countries — Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia). But the EU itself has been on a downward journey. Even a few years ago it used to be better than now — well, that is my opinion of course. Now there is so much poverty and inequality in the EU. It is like the law of diminishing returns — they expanded too quickly and ultimately — you can't have the organisation where all the major decisions are taken by people who are not elected and are not accountable to anyone. The EU is not accountable to the citizens of Europe one bit, in fact — most Europeans are completely unaware of who is doing what there. The EU Commission is the main organisation there, not even the EU parliament. And even if their Parliament was not just a consultative organ for the EU commission, but had powers — even then, how can one parliament represent 500 million people? It is impossible. Here in the UK — we don't just have Westminster, Scotland has its own Parliament, the Welsh have their Welsh Assembly, Northern Ireland has theirs. Only England does not have its own Parliament, as there is obviously more English representation in Westminster, due to the majority of the UK population being based in England. The EU has gone downhill, the Med is in poverty, people are unhappy. You know — the world doesn't stand the same, it evolves. Sometimes things get better, sometimes they get worse. The Soviet Union also had its good times and bad times, but in the end — it collapsed. The same thing is happening to the EU now, cause ultimately — all authoritarian undemocratic set ups collapse in the end, cause they are fundamentally unhealthy, they are fundamentally flawed. . If Mark Carney started saying things like this (please see below) — then this is definitely it.

Mark Carney:


Britain could lead the world into a new era of democracy and free trade, using the Brexit revolt against the establishment as a springboard to making the global order more cooperative, accountable and prosperous, according to the Governor of the Bank of England.
The current system of global trade has key flaws including wealth and income inequality, a lack of democracy and trust, and serious financial imbalances, Mark Carney warned on Tuesday.
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  Grin
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20:28 13.02.2019
It is heavy snow in Moscow. Today I was like
https://twitter.com/ea_potapoff/status/108978375...

> I made some pics (expand)
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  Redhead
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22:07 13.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
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> https://twitter.com/ea_potapoff/status/108978375...
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> > I made some pics (expand)
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Thank you very much, lovely pics. Everyone is having snow, Sybil wrote in the Convention group that they have been having huge snow storms in Canada as well. Here the weather is warm at the moment — it was +14C today. I didn't take any pics — I am ill at the moment and still training whilst being ill — I am starting my new role next week. But I was wearing just a thin mac today — the weather was like this (this is me going to work at 6 am in the morning — this is a couple of years ago)


The last pic is a bit scary. I didn't realize they have street art in Russia now. Have you heard of Banksy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy

His street art is worth millions here now and sells at auctions — Christies, Bonhams, etc. — who would have thought?
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22:45 13.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> The last pic is a bit scary. I didn't realize they have street art in Russia now. Have you heard of Banksy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banksy
quoted1
Yes I did. Banksy is popular in Russia too. I thought about Banksy the very moment I saw that street art. That wall was clean yesterday. Somebody made it last night.
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22:59 13.02.2019
Some figure skating news. Anna Scherbakova won short program at EYOF 2019 https://eyof2019.net/en/
It is B level competition.

Look at the huge gap between 1st and 2nd places
1. Анна Щербакова (Россия) – 72,57
2. Лукреция Беккари (Италия) – 58,91
3. Анастасия Архипова (Украина) – 58,58




P.S. Alena's season best is 79+ points )
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23:24 13.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I am ill at the moment and still training whilst being ill — I am starting my new role next week
quoted1
I hope you'll get well before next week. Some of my collegues are also ill. It is wet outside and the wind is strong.

Gtg now, see you
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  Redhead
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00:19 14.02.2019
I deleted my pic as don't want it to hang around here. I have a lot of enemies on this forum unfortunately, so don't want them to use my pics inappropriately, so I try to delete them after posting them. Some people here are surprised that I am so free with posting my pics. But it is a habit — I posted tons of our pics on moms' forums here, iInstgram, etc., I just don't have that fear. I live in England, what can they do to me? Nothing.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Yes I did. Banksy is popular in Russia too. I thought about Banksy the very moment I saw that street art. That wall was clean yesterday. Somebody made it last night.
quoted1
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Very cool. See — you in Russia are picking up a lot of western culture and most of it originates in Britain and then spreads — this country is ultra creative. How can people then go on forums and write stupid hateful things like «англичанка гадит» or let's bomb London, etc. They must be really poorly educated.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> I hope you'll get well before next week. Some of my collegues are also ill. It is wet outside and the wind is strong.
quoted1
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Thank you very much for caring, that is really nice of you. Flues here are bad, really bad. I remember being ill with flues in Russia and it wasn't the same. Here they are strong, very strong. Because they can give you huge complications. My husband once had a flu which paralyzed his limbs — he literally couldn't move. Was taken into hospital and put on a drip («капельница») with antibiotics. I really freaked out at the time — thought he had a stroke or something,. But here you have to be literally at death';s door before they prescribe you an antibiotic. And the reason is not that it is expensive for the NHS or whatever — the reason is because flues and viruses here become immune to any antibiotics. So if you take antibiotics often — sooner or later they just don't work at all. My husband understands all that stuff very well and he explained it to me. Every year we also have something called Nora virus — it is when you are vomiting all the time without being able to stop — unable to hold down any drink, get very dehydrated. I once lost 6 kilos in 4 days cause of Nora virus. And my kids get it every year at school. One would have thought they should build up immunity to it by now, but they don't. My husband says it is because viruses mutate. And every year it is not the same virus, just the effect is the same.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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00:31 14.02.2019
Redhead (Expat), Russia was always on the outskirts of the world economy and culture, nearer or farther to centre but not in it, and it always exploited it colonies to get more and more closer to the Europe, leaving them behind instead. Ukraine is just an example of it. It was involved in the global trade and cultural exchange in the time of the Polish Rzeczpospolita, but after incorporation of the Ukrainian Dnieper Land a.k.a. Hetmanshchina its population was blocked from Europe hence becoming an ignorant (the highest illiteracy in the whole European Russia!) peasant unhistorical nation.

Do you reckon that now for Russia we can be the equal partner in economy? We were never equal during the imperial times, nor Soviet times, but just an integral and not the best part of the empire (with the most of scientific, cultural and high-technology centres in Russia). Just read this forum and try to count how much Russian users don't think that Ukrainians are a unique nation, or have their own self-sufficient culture, or just have right for an independent state.

It is not big deal for having relations with the Russia. But if today regime will continue talking rubbish about 'failed state', 'historic Russian territories' I suppose that our economic relations will remain on the bottom for a longer time.

I don't know how the Irish suffered under English rule but I don't reckon that they suffered more than Ukrainians. At least Ireland is the formed democratic nation now (not like Sudan or Pakistan, former British colonies too) instead of the Ukrainian 19th century patriarchal society with damaged national consciousness and self-identification. And it hasn't lost more than 15 million people in 30 years period.
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00:41 14.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
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> It is not big deal for having relations with the Russia. But if today regime will continue talking rubbish about 'failed state', 'historic Russian territories' I suppose that our economic relations will remain on the bottom for a longer time.
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> I don't know how the Irish suffered under English rule but I don't reckon that they suffered more than Ukrainians. At least Ireland is the formed democratic nation now (not like Sudan or Pakistan, former British colonies too) instead of the Ukrainian 19th century patriarchal society with damaged national consciousness and self-identification. And it hasn't lost more than 15 million people in 30 years period.
quoted1

I don't know about the Soviet Union — I think in the Soviet Union Ukraine was one of the richer places. My relatives in Ukraine did not live much worse than my Moscow relatives. Ireland is democratic. Ireland is very much like England, if you go there — apart from the accent and the signs — nothing is much different. They even have double deckers there (double decker buses) — just with Eire signs. I lived in Ireland from time to time at one point. The difference between the English and the Irish is the Irish are mostly Celts (of Celtic origin), the English are a mixture of Celts and Anglosaxons (Germanic tribes that came over here at one point). But a lot of blood ii mixed up — they reckon 39% of English blood is German and 29% - french, as there was the Norman invasion, don't forget. And the Irish are Catholic of course mostly, the English are the Church of England (protestants).
As for the Russian forum users — they write moronic things, inciting hatred towards Ukrainians a lot. .It really is disgusting. You kind of do the same to them (not you personally, but some Ukrainian users). It is all very sad to be honest.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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00:45 14.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> There was famine in other parts of USSR too. It wasn't like Russians were starving Ukrainians. It was more like communists were starving ordinary people
quoted1
Ukraine suffered much worse than Russia except Kuban, just comparing the number of deaths. And why did that Famine left memories only in Ukraine but nor in Russia? I mean not only the people's memory, but literature, press, history. You are talking about Famine in Russia only in context of Holodomor, not more.

In my opinion it was about starving not ordinary people but rebellious owners that in the depths of their souls loathed communists. I don't know if it is just a coincidence, but these owners occurred to be nationals and Cossacks. Though simultaneously was repressed and terrorised the most of Ukrainian intellectual elite, Ukrainisation was cancelled and all Ukrainian schools in the Russian Federation were closed.

It is discussed much by the historians Ukrainian ones including if that was an action against peasantry as a class or against the Ukrainians as a nation.
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00:56 14.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I don't know about the Soviet Union — I think in the Soviet Union Ukraine was one of the richer places.
quoted1
In Ukraine were Lviv, Kyiv, Kharkiv and Odessa. First or second line of supplement. Russia is of course bigger and has more little cities were life was poor. I am talking about economy in whole, and I reckon that our relations were something like colony and metropole, though not like between India and Britain. Just see that the big part of our economy was made of coal mining Donbass, what is even not the former, but the 19th century. The Western Ukraine remained rural region with not so much industry at all.
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> As for the Russian forum users — they write moronic things, inciting hatred towards Ukrainians a lot. .It really is disgusting. You kind of do the same to them (not you personally, but some Ukrainian users). It is all very sad to be honest.
quoted1
They are reciting Russian propaganda which has very deep roots, including Karamzin and Solzhenitsyn. It is just imperial ideology, you know, third Rome, Russian Mission, Kulturtraeger and so on which Russia has never given up. And conflict will go on until they leave the former century and enter the postindustrial era like the French and Britons did.
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09:39 14.02.2019
Hi all

Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Russia was always on the outskirts of the world economy and culture, nearer or farther to centre but not in it
quoted1
What? Russian culture is deep and rich. The only empire in recent history that was physically bigger than the Russian Empire was the British Empire, which controlled about 25% of the world’s surface, whereas the Russian Empire controlled about 17%. The British Empire accounted for 13.6% of the world’s gross domestic product (GDP) in 1913, while Russia’s accounted for 8.3%.
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09:48 14.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Thank you very much for caring, that is really nice of you. Flues here are bad, really bad. I remember being ill with flues in Russia and it wasn't the same. Here they are strong, very strong. Because they can give you huge complications. My husband once had a flu which paralyzed his limbs — he literally couldn't move. Was taken into hospital and put on a drip («капельница») with antibiotics. I really freaked out at the time — thought he had a stroke or something,. But here you have to be literally at death';s door before they prescribe you an antibiotic. And the reason is not that it is expensive for the NHS or whatever — the reason is because flues and viruses here become immune to any antibiotics. So if you take antibiotics often — sooner or later they just don't work at all. My husband understands all that stuff very well and he explained it to me. Every year we also have something called Nora virus — it is when you are vomiting all the time without being able to stop — unable to hold down any drink, get very dehydrated. I once lost 6 kilos in 4 days cause of Nora virus. And my kids get it every year at school. One would have thought they should build up immunity to it by now, but they don't. My husband says it is because viruses mutate. And every year it is not the same virus, just the effect is the same.
quoted1
Unfortunately we have some bad types of flu in Russia too. I don't know, maybe they mutated in recent decades. One flu can cause severe joints pain, another can cause stomach pain and make you vomit etc.
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10:02 14.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> Ukraine suffered much worse than Russia except Kuban, just comparing the number of deaths. And why did that Famine left memories only in Ukraine but nor in Russia? I mean not only the people's memory, but literature, press, history. You are talking about Famine in Russia only in context of Holodomor, not more.
quoted1
There was also a famine in Kazakhstan. Well, the term «голодающий Поволжья» is well-know to anyone in Russia.
And to be honest, since 1992 Ukraine elites where trying to dig out as many negative facts about relations between Russia and Ukraine as possible. It is also well-known that quite often Ukrainian Institute of National Remembrance is trying to rewrite history in favour of current political agenda instead of restoration of objective and fair history of the Ukrainian people.
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10:06 14.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I don't know about the Soviet Union — I think in the Soviet Union Ukraine was one of the richer places.
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Yes, in Soviet Ukraine people had a better life than in Soviet Russia in general. I think it's because some people in charge of the USSR were Ukrainians (like Nikita Khrushchev). There was also a policy of donating to regional Republics (similar to what we have now in Chechnya).

My relatives from Ukraine had a big household in soviet times. And they were sending some delicious food to my relatives in Russia from time to time. Now I send money to my relatives in Ukraine from time to time. Kinda reverse situation.
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