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  Redhead
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11:57 10.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> A freind of mine who owns his own forum about figure skating likes this Plushenko's program very much. Probably, because he likes Michael Jackson
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That is amazing, mate. Probably even better than Yagudin's Winter. Honestly, it;s classy. And I am not a particular fan of Michael Jackson. But this performance is up there you know. He is probably God of figure skating. It is breathtaking. I keep watching it.
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  Redhead
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12:48 10.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> ⍟ Redhead (Expat),
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> Many people still argue, who was better, Yagudin or Plushenko. What do you think about it?)
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I only just noticed this post of yours. I think Pluschenko is definitely better, a better performer. He is an amazing performer. And you know what differs a performer from all the rest whatever they do? Here they call it X Factor. Appeal, charisma, etc. His performances are amazing. Of course the technique is something else obviously, but I ain't gonna talk about it as not familiar with the terms and that.
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  Grin
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09:32 11.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
>> ⍟ Redhead (Expat),
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>> Many people still argue, who was better, Yagudin or Plushenko. What do you think about it?)
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> I only just noticed this post of yours. I think Pluschenko is definitely better, a better performer. He is an amazing performer. And you know what differs a performer from all the rest whatever they do? Here they call it X Factor. Appeal, charisma, etc. His performances are amazing. Of course the technique is something else obviously, but I ain't gonna talk about it as not familiar with the terms and that.
quoted1
I'm glad you liked both Yagudin and Plushenko. Unfortunately skaters like them are very very rare.

P.S. I still hope ISU will change the rules and step sequences will be spectacular again like they were in Plushenko and Yagudin times.
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  Redhead
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20:15 11.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> 'm glad you liked both Yagudin and Plushenko. Unfortunately skaters like them are very very rare.
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quoted1

Are you joking? How can one not like something like this, it is super.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> P.S. I still hope ISU will change the rules and step sequences will be spectacular again like they were in Plushenko and Yagudin times.
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I find it quite befuddling to be honest - that their changing the rules is done not with a viewer in mind, but the bloody judges. So that it is easier for them. That is crazy. Viewers should be their number one priority.
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01:04 12.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I find it quite befuddling to be honest — that their changing the rules is done not with a viewer in mind, but the bloody judges. So that it is easier for them. That is crazy. Viewers should be their number one priority.
quoted1
Can't agree more. They made it because critics were saying that if figure skating is a sport, scores should be based on clear and transparent criteria bla bla. As for me it was a poor excuse.

More than that, step sequence is now one of the cheapest elements in skater's program. So there is no point in working so hard on it, skaters prefer to focus on other elements.

Funny thing — last year ISU officials declared they want to encourage skaters to work on steps and spins more. After that they decreased base value of steps and spins… I was like… wut? why? wtf are you doing ISU?
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:18 12.02.2019
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Frankly speaking you are getting f-ed from both sides. If you think that what US did to your country was ok, well, probably, you need more time to realise what has happened.
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quoted1
In this globalised world it's better to be the US satellite than the Russian one, comparing Poland and Belarus.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> As you can see it from ⍟ Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) posts, he also thinks that «tomos» is a real Poroshenko's success despite the fact that it didn't affect his life at all.
quoted1
It doesn't matter if it affects my own life. If Tolkien hadn't written his 'Lord of the Rings', or Shevchenko hadn't written his 'Kobzar', I suppose that my life wouldn't have changed much. There would have been trains, railways, atomic energy and so on. I am talking about much further going things, meaning ultimate escape from Russia that I am sure will have been done by the end of the middle of this century.
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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21:20 12.02.2019
Redhead (Expat), Caravan Palace have published their new track, 'Miracle'

And I have found what I wanted to show you last time.

Very nice song in my opinion.
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  Redhead
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21:50 12.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> In this globalised world it's better to be the US satellite than the Russian one, comparing Poland and Belarus.
quoted1
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I don't see how that is. Of course the US is a much more democratic country with a better standard of living, but it is miles away from you and at the moment both the US and the UK are not interested in any expansionist projects, what is going on here is the opposite — we are having Brexit, they are having Trump.

With Poland — well, first of all, they embarked on their quest to join the EU back in the 80s and they have never had any revolutions or wars or anything like that, they have just been moving steadily and methodically towards their goal, and they are close to Germany, bordering it. They have also had a massive amount of funding from the EU. The times are changing now, the UK is leaving, the Mideterranean is in poverty, France and Italy are in poverty, etc. This is what the funding used to be — per year

Net contribution (or spend) by Country

Donor countries — billion Euros:
Страны доноры
Germany + € 14.31 bn
UK +€ 11.52 bn
France +€ 5.52 bn
Netherlands +€ 3.70 bn
Italy +€ 2.6 bn
Sweden +€ 2.2bn
Belgium +€ 1.39bn
Luxembourg +€ 0.94bn
Austria +€ 0.85bn
Denmark +€ 0.79bn
Finland +€ 0.49bn
Cypress +€ 0.02bn

Countries where the EU money is spent
Страны которые датируются из бюджета ЕС и наскол ько

Poland -€ 9.48bn
Czech Republic -€ 5.7bn
Romania -€ 5.16bn
Greece -€ 4.93bn
Hungary -€ 4.64bn
Spain -€ 4.53bn
Slovakia -€ 3.1bn
Bulgaria -€ 2.28bn
Portugal -€ 0.98bn
Latvia -€ 0.76bn
Slovenia -€ 0.58bn
Lithuania -€ 0.54bn
Ireland -€ 0.35bn
Malta -€ 0.32bn
Estonia -€ 0.24bn
Croatia -€ 0.23bn
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  Redhead
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21:54 12.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> It doesn't matter if it affects my own life. If Tolkien hadn't written his 'Lord of the Rings', or Shevchenko hadn't written his 'Kobzar', I suppose that my life wouldn't have changed much. There would have been trains, railways, atomic energy and so on. I am talking about much further going things, meaning ultimate escape from Russia that I am sure will have been done by the end of the middle of this century.
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quoted1

You will never escape from Russia, they are your neighbor and they are huge. You remind me of the Republic of Ireland. They always wanted to «escape» from the UK, but 70% of their trade and economy is tied up to the UK, not the EU. You will have to patch it up somehow — with Russia. You have to be realistic and pragmatic. You can't build your whole future based on your hatred for Russia.
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  Redhead
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21:58 12.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
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> And I have found what I wanted to show you last time.
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> Very nice song in my opinion.
quoted1

The remix of Crazy is very cool — fantastic

I am familiar with the Caravan — nice electro swing French band and a lovely track. Thank you.
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  Grin
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00:01 13.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> In this globalised world it's better to be the US satellite than the Russian one, comparing Poland and Belarus
quoted1
USSR was a formidable foe for the US. Russia is not. Russia is more like a scapegoat for the US so they can bitch about meddling in their elections, demand from the EU countries to spend more money on NATO etc.
So, no one in the west is going to boost your economy like they did with Poland.

Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> It doesn't matter if it affects my own life. If Tolkien hadn't written his 'Lord of the Rings', or Shevchenko hadn't written his 'Kobzar', I suppose that my life wouldn't have changed much. There would have been trains, railways, atomic energy and so on. I am talking about much further going things, meaning ultimate escape from Russia that I am sure will have been done by the end of the middle of this century
quoted1
Listen to Readhead. Btw, do you happen to know who is Ukraine's main trade partner? Who invested more in your economy during the last two years?
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  Grin
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00:20 13.02.2019
Redhead (Expat),
One more fact about ISU. For some reasons they ditched sprials too. In «good old days» spirals were as important for ladies as step sequences were important for men. Some Japanese girls and Eteri girls still do them but they don't bother to do difficult and interesting spirals becase they won't get much points for that. Well, Kostornaya and Satoko Miyahara have lovely spirals but they don't hold their postitions for so long, which makes their spirals less spectacular.

An example of good «old school» spiral (watch from 1:02)
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  Oleksa Єromіn
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08:47 13.02.2019
Grin (25771), ⍟ Redhead (Expat), I am not talking about economy. Russia really borders Ukraine and we can't do anything about this, though our economy is leaning more and more to the EU countries.

It is about culture, more important and crucial thng in nation building. Ukraine wasn't influenced much by Russian culture until the 18th century unlike Ireland and Scotland, first of which was occupied in the 15th century and harshly treated since. By those words I meant that by the middle of this century we will have created fully our national culture and will have accepted it by the most of our citizens.

When I will have ability I will show you what I mean, in music.
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17:46 13.02.2019
Oleksa Єromіn (WILDTRACER) wrote in reply to post:
> ⍟ Grin (25771), ⍟ Redhead (Expat), I am not talking about economy. Russia really borders Ukraine and we can't do anything about this, though our economy is leaning more and more to the EU countries. It is about culture, more important and crucial thng in nation building. Ukraine wasn't influenced much by Russian culture until the 18th century unlike Ireland and Scotland, first of which was occupied in the 15th century and harshly treated since. By those words I meant that by the middle of this century we will have created fully our national culture and will have accepted it by the most of our citizens.
quoted1

Fair enough, but with all due respect — the Russians haven't been anywhere near as bad to you as the English towards the Irish. Do you know that the Irish were sold to slavery before the blacks? There was Potato Famine as well. The reason lots of them upped sticks (idiom for the verb «to leave»)  to the US—

is because they were dying from starvation- literally dropping off like flies during the Potato Famine. The Great Famine (Irish: an Gorta Mór, [anˠ ˈgɔɾˠt̪ˠa mˠoːɾˠ]), or the Great Hunger, was a period in Ireland between 1845 and 1849 of mass starvation, disease, and emigration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_%28Ir...

And at the time it was very risky to travel to the US by sea - lots of people died during the sea journey itself.

I know you also had a famine in Ukraine, but it was not on the scale of the Great Irish Famine. What they did with Crimea and in Donbass is disgusting of course, but it will blow over — in due course. You gotta trade with them, etc. — to prosper.
The EU is not all paradise, it is experiencing a lot of problems at the moment. And from what I can gather — you hate the USSR, well the EU is a similar undemocratic arrangement. It is one thing to love Europe and the culture, etc, the EU — it is quite another thing altogether. It is run by people who are not elected — for starters. Why would you willingly be wishing to get involved in it — it is beyond me.
The reason I voted against Brexit is because we all knew in the City — that there will be uncertainty over the economy, uncertainty over passporting rights (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/pa ssporting.asp), etc. It is for personal reasons. Other than that — I don't like the organisation one bit — no one here does, even Remainers don't. They are just shit scared of the short and medium term consequences of Brexit to the economy.

By the way, a glimmer of hope — the Bank of England Governor Mark Carney changed his pessimistic tune for a more optimistic one.

Mark Carney drops Project Fear as he talks up free trade potential of Brexit

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/02/12/...
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  Grin
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18:18 13.02.2019
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I know you also had a famine in Ukraine
quoted1
There was famine in other parts of USSR too. It wasn't like Russians were starving Ukrainians. It was more like communists were starving ordinary people

Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> The EU is not all paradise, it is experiencing a lot of problems at the moment
quoted1
Sounds like blasphemy Ukrainians were told they will prosper soon after joining EU.
Look what their PM (Yats) told them
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