> Of course they have the right to do it. But in that case «they are asking for it», don't you think so?) quoted1
That may be, but the best way of getting at them is just ignoring it. If you give them what they are «asking for» — they will just get more bitter, etc. And making people feel bitter and more negative will reflect badly on yourself in the first place- from your own negative emotions. But it's your business, I am no judge. In fact — I am the same in a way — I react to things very strongly sometimes. All the advice I am «dishing out «is not mine, it is the advice my husband usually gives me in such situations - he gives such advice to me all the time. The trouble is — I can't always follow it, as not as «cool and collected» as him. Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Puitin dosen't mean Russia for me. As I've said before, in 2011 I has some views similar to Convention. But as the times go by we learn more. I've learnt more about the opposition, western politicians. And I don't thing they are better than Putin. > For example, as for me Churchil is 100 time more evil than Putin quoted1
Really? Well. You are entitled to your opinion of course. Churchill is the iconic figure in this country, I never lived here when Churchill was Prime Minister but I trust the people here that he was a great Prime Minister — one of the greatest of all times. That's all I can say really. You rate Putin really high it seems (or Churchill really low) even though you don't vote for him. Like I said to you before — you are a strange character, a bit of a mystery. Anyway, it was nice talking to you, I am off.)
> Really? Well. You are entitled to your opinion of course. Churchill is the iconic figure in this country, I never lived here when Churchill was Prime Minister but I trust the people here that he was a great Prime Minister — one of the greatest of all times. That's all I can say really. You rate Putin really high it seems (or Churchill really low) even though you don't vote for him. Like I said to you before — you are a strange character, a bit of a mystery. Anyway, it was nice talking to you, I am off.) > quoted1
I didn't say Putin is a better ruler (he is not). I just said he is less evil person. It isn't the same.
> Putin dosen't mean Russia for me. As I've said before, in 2011 I had some views similar to Convention. But as the time go by we learn more. quoted1
You didin't «learn» more, you «unlearned» what you had previously learned instead. It happens sometimes. Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> I've learnt more about the opposition, western politicians. And I don't thing they are better than Putin. quoted1
It is not about «opposition are not better or better than Putin». Whether you have Putin/Shmutin/ Thatcher «the milk snatcher» (this was her nickname here as she abolished the free milk for primary school kids in England in state schools to save money) — in any democratic set up one needs opposition and it has to have the conditions to exist and thrive in the mainstream. Of course — even if that is the case — some people will prefer Putin and that is not a problem. The problem is opposition in Russia does not have the same fair playing field as the Putin's clan — it doesn't have the same access to the mainstream press, people who happen to support it do not have the same right to express themselves, etc. It is different in the West. That is what it is about. It is about the concept which we here call «fair play». I for one — hate Corbyn with all my guts, but if tomorrow May started to oppress Labour supporters, or withdraw their funding or crack down on the newspapers that promote Labour's agenda — I would be the first to go out in the streets and protest against that. Do you get it? Because — whether I like Conservatives or not, I don't want a set up here where they rule by dictate or use dirty tricks (like invent corruption or other charges for people who might challenge them in the elections whilst being corrupt to the core themselves). They have to fight for people's opinion and it has to be a fair fight, without it — they are no use to anyone here. If they are winning — great for me, but it has to be a fair competition. In Russia it does not exist. Until it does — you won't even see a proper opposition in Russia, so it doesn't even make sense to bitch about how inadequate it is or whatever. The set up is inadequate to start off with. That is the problem.
> in any democratic set up one needs opposition and it has to have the conditions to exist and thrive in the mainstream quoted1
No doubts. «Thanks» to Putin we don't have opposition. For now we have Sobchak (as for me she isn't really an opposition) and Navalny (lazy narcissistic clown). Should I embrace them? I think not.
One of my friends (he is also my colleague) is die hard fan of Navalny. He thinks literally everybody is a better option than Putin. I can't agree with that. I'm not ready to face decades of poverty and another potential civil conflict just because there must be a change.
Probably, some leftists like Udaltsov can be the opposition I like. Time will tell.
I didn't use the word «blatant», I used «blunt». Do you know what that means? A knife can be sharp or it can be blunt. For example, Putin's propaganda of «pseudo- patriotism» is blunt (тупая), it would have never washed with people here.
Your «humorous» pictures are mostly based on such blunt propaganda, although I just clicked on your profile and saw you posted some new «saucy» stuff about Megan and Harry - not too bad, but why was it necessary to use derogatory and irrespective language re our Queen?
By the way — are you in Denmark? What's the weather like? I had such an exhausting day today — we put through a mega deal at work and the client just kept «verbally harassing» me all day. For example I had to ask him a question «Do you have any children dependent on you» (it was necessary, as a loan had to be underwritten for him personally before the deal was closed, it's a long story) and the answer was «No, not unless you are offering». He went on a lot about how lovely my diamond ring is but it is a shame that I am married and stuff. A bit of flirting is nice, but in the City it gets too much sometimes, you know. It is still a very macho environment in general — don't think anything will ever change that, no matter how much anti harassment campaigning they are going to throw into it.
> Why do you think so? Since that time my views on Russian politicians didn't change a bit. I just don't see rainbows and ponies all over the place in the «developed» countries anymore. quoted1
One doesn't need to idealize the West, in fact — noone does it here, but compared to Russia — it is a more developed place, you have a lot to learn. Developed world is still more developed — in all senses of that word, so you have to catch up with it. What is the point of «patriotically» rubbishing the West if you are worse yourselves? No point whatsoever, is there?
> No doubts. «Thanks» to Putin we don't have opposition. quoted1
Not so much «thanks» to Putin. Putin is a popular leader, we do have people here who admire him as well. But the set up is wrong for the country. Putin's propaganda feeds off the Soviet mentality, whereby people see «stability» as having a totalitarian set up and that is not good for the country at this stage. Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> One of my friends (he is also my colleague) is die hard fan of Navalny. quoted1
He sounds like a smart man. There is no danger of Navalny winning anyway, but he can provide some genuine opposition. Building up the strong opposition in Russia is a long process, he is just part of the process, that's all. You want a strong credible opposition I take it. But it doesn't appear out of nowhere you know. In order for someone like Corbyn to come up in your country — the set up has to be different. Navalny is doing his utmost to change it — under duress, he deserves respect.