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I feel for Evgenia. There is no way her dream to become olympic champion can come true. Her former coach has too many talented girls who will surpass her by 2022. Some of them can give her a lot of run for her money right now.
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18:58 22.05.2018
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> But there was so much boasting and drama on those forums — politforums is not as bad in comparison. I think all forums are a bit dramatic like that, it's got to do with human psychology I guess.
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> P.S. Going forward — I don't like posting on this forum — it is like Frankenstein (re -weird translations, etc). If you want to discuss in English — open a thread on the English only forum, if you want to discuss in Russian — open one on the Russian speaking part of the forum.
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I think politforum and goldenhate (oops, goldenskate of course ^^) are very similar. Most of people came here (or there) to have some fun and look for nice/funny pictures and to show that their favorites are best, their opponents are dumb/arrogant and so on.
For you, Putin is main evil on planet Earth. For goldenhate variant of you (no offence) — coach Eteri is mother of Evil (yes, they are serious)

(start from 1:04)

For me talking with such people is even more funny than talking to people here at politforums.net.

They dream she crushes and burns


But for know she is continuing to deliver champion after champion. I know, it is very irritating if athletes from one country (from the same coach) can't stop winning. But what should be in a person's head to think a figure skating coach is Mother of evil?)

You know, sometimes I feel like playing with puppies when I argue with her haters about how cruel/not so cruel she is.

For me it's like playing World of tanks or smth close to that.

But when you talk about politics… yes, it can be fun sometimes, but you realise in fact it is horrible and terrible situation going on in the world between strong influential countries and week ones. Ukraine is torn apart, thousands of people died. Ukraine lost Crimea, Russia lost Ukraine, EU lost Russia and so on.
Same goes for Syria, Palestine, Yemen etc.

So I prefer figure skating to politics atm.
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21:27 22.05.2018
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> You know, sometimes I feel like playing with puppies when I argue with her haters about how cruel/not so cruel she is.
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So basically — you get a kick out of trolling people and that's a game for you, right? Do you think it is actually normal/healthy to find such things pleasant? I am not judging, just find it a bit odd to be honest, a bit unusual.
As far as your figure skating forum — obviously people will defend an athlete they like as it is sport. I have never been a member on any sports' forums, but I can imagine it is like supporting your favourite football team. I live amongst the English, who take their beloved football teams' support extremely seriously (Premier League especially) — and lots of arguments and fights happen between football fans here. Everyone here supports some team even if they are not hardcore fans — usually it is more to do with where they were born. Sometimes it is even to do with where their parents are from. For example, even though my husband grew up in Kingston upon Thames which is Greater London — his mom is from up North, so he supports Manchester United — as spent a lot of time up North as a kid with his cousins etc.

But yeah — of course trolling people about politics is a bit cruel, as political events affect our lives and not always through our choice — like war in Ukraine for instance. I find it sickening and a bit depressing watching here how people troll each other knowing that this or that person lives in the military conflict zone for example. But still — I find a political forum is more dynamic and more relates to our reality than any other. In a way. Having said that, I am sick of politics too. I just kind of got used to this forum and to the Convention group, as got to know some of these people a bit closer and just find them nice and interesting people whom I can share things with if I feel like it. And in my view most of them are simply a cut above from the rest of the forum in their attitudes, style of language, hobbies (music, art, poetry, etc.). But I come here more out of habit now and to be honest — more and more I feel I could take it or leave it, as getting a bit fed up with it. Arguing in virtual reality can help sometimes — it's like a form of brain exercise in a way. But now and again one just gets fed up with it. And I am not a troll, never understood such people really.
With me — when I used to be obsessed with diamonds and jewelry — those forums were actually really harmful. I first went on those forums to discuss antiques — as my mom in law has a lot of antique jewelry and UK has the biggest antique heritage and market in the world. Every family here has some old cut diamonds and heirlooms from — at least from Victorian and Art Deco periods. And in the States antique cut diamonds (Old European cut, Antique cushion cut, etc.) are making a huge come back. I won't go into it too much as there will be no stopping me — I know too much about the subject, but most Americans can't get their hands on those antiques and sometimes they buy a huge new cut diamond (Hearts and Arrows, etc.) and then take it to a lapidary for it to be custom cut into an antique diamond. It is extortionately expensive. I felt like a connoisseur on those forums amongst them (being from the UK of course and having my mother in law as my mother in law — she has a massive collection of antique jewelry which she gifts me now and again and tells me a lot of stories about). But slowly slowly I started to get s u c ked into it and competing with people — buying a lot of diamonds, spending a lot of money and it became an obsession — to the point where I started regularly arguing with my husband. It was like gambling in a way — I just couldn't stop spending money and he never stopped me doing anything, just kept asking me not to do it which was no use, as I just lied and hid some purchases but continued to do it. I still don't know how he put up with it all, he is an incredibly patient man, but we got through it and I stopped doing it in the end — of my own accord, as I just got fed up with constantly feeling guilty.
Just to give you an idea — I will post a couple of videos from GOG (it's Good old gold — a great American company specializing in diamonds), I knew John (his nickname is Rhino) from there personally, used to buy from him a lot, the videos are made by him. I used to watch them 24/7 all the time — even when walking my kids in the park. Now thinking about it — I must have been mad.





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I am so glad I am over that obsession now, I still have lots of jewelry but not obsessed with it anymore, phew…
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22:03 22.05.2018
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> I am so glad I am over that obsession now, I still have lots of jewelry but not obsessed with it anymore, phew…
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Glad to hear it.

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> Just to give you an idea — I will post a couple of videos from GOG
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Lol, for me this abbreviation means good old games, nvm.
Diamonds look beautiful, It reminds me of my childhood. I used to have a collection of stones and minerals. And I dreamt to become geologist)
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22:22 22.05.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> So basically — you get a kick out of trolling people and that's a game for you, right? Do you think it is actually normal/healthy to find such things pleasant? I am not judging, just find it a bit odd to be honest, a bit unusual.
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It's not like my goal is to troll people. It depends on the situation.

Can you feel the difference between
— I'm in love with skater Y, her skating skills are great and she is charming
and
— i'm in love with skater Y, her skating skills are way better than the Russians'
I don't like when people praise their faves by belittling others. If a person does it, highly likely I will try to troll him/her.

And freaks, I like to troll freaks, I admit it. Probably, it's a bad habbit. May be one day i'll get rid of it.

For example, I think that ballet>figure skating in terms of artistry, expressivness and so on. Any good ballerina can be way more expressive and artistic than top figure skaters.

Some people think fs is everything, and some skaters have legendary artisrty and so on. I don't consider them freaks.

Perfect example of freaks I like to troll are yunabots (some of them).
Here is the example of their behaviour
https://www.koreaboo.com/news/koreans-enraged-so...
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22:37 22.05.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> But now and again one just gets fed up with it. And I am not a troll, never understood such people really.
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I understand you quite well. In fact nothing new is happening in politics (same old s**t everywhere). I'm fed up with it too. Now it is off-season in FS, next more or less important competitions will be held in late August, so figure skating fans are killing their time bitching about Medvexit, Eteri and so on. After 160 pages that discussion became not so interesting to me. That's why I'm here. Probably I can watch some funny pictures atm, but «serious political discussions» leave me bored to death.
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23:07 22.05.2018
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>> Just to give you an idea — I will post a couple of videos from GOG
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>Lol, for me this abbreviation means good old games, nvm.
> Diamonds look beautiful, It reminds me of my childhood. I used to have a collection of stones and minerals. And I dreamt to become geologist)
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Diamonds are incredible. The best mineral known to man — the hardest on the Mohs scale, the fieriest, purest stones with utmost character. Part of my obsession was also of «geological» nature, but a better word for it is gemological. Gems are precious stones (Diamond, Ruby- Sapphire (both corundum), Emerald, Tanzinite), not even semi precious (of which there are many families, e.g. Citrine, Topaz, Garnet, etc. — which are all Quartz family stones). Like I say — it's better not to start me on this one — I will never stop talking.
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23:20 22.05.2018
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> — i'm in love with skater Y, her skating skills are way better than the Russians'
> I don't like when people praise their faves by belittling others. If a person does it, highly likely I will try to troll him/her.
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Your «difference» is called competition. Skater «Y» is better than the Russians or in fact otherwise — is purely legitimate. Why not? We all compete in this world, competition is what drives us all and in sport it is paramount. What exactly do you find wrong with the statement? You are going to brand people «russo phobes» again cause they dare to support their country's athletes who happen to be other than the Russians? Like you branded people «Russo phobes» on this forum if they supported Ukraine's stance and view of things on the conflict or your own (Russian) people who dared to oppose the course of putinism? You did a lot of that here on this forum you know. Now you found a «better toy» — trolling those who don't support the Russian figure skating team. Well… It is your form of «patriotism» I suppose, it is funny.
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> And freaks, I like to troll freaks, I admit it. Probably, it's a bad habbit. May be one day i'll get rid of it.
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«Freaks» — and your judgement as to who is a freak and who is not is of course always objective? I doubt it. But it is not necessarily a bad habit, maybe it just needs refining. I am being sarcastic a little bit here, sorry.
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> I understand you quite well. In fact nothing new is happening in politics (same old s**t everywhere). I'm fed up with it too. Now it is off-season in FS, next more or less important competitions will be held in late August, so figure skating fans are killing their time bitching about Medvexit, Eteri and so on. After 160 pages that discussion became not so interesting to me. That's why I'm here. Probably I can watch some funny pictures atm, but «serious political discussions» leave me bored to death.
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Sorry to hear that the figure skating forum is boring you at the moment, August will come soon enough and there will be new things to argue about on your forum, no doubt. Here on politforums — same old, same old — more or less and yeah — it is a bit boring. I looked at the pictures you posted in the "Humour" thread — they are even more boring than the discussions here to be honest as = blunt propaganda, but hey, we put up with you posting them here, don't we?
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23:53 22.05.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Your «difference» is called competition. Skater «Y» is better than the Russians or in fact otherwise — is purely legitimate. Why not? We all compete in this world, competition is what drives us all and in sport it is paramount. What exactly do you find wrong with the statement? You are going to brand people «russo phobes» again cause they dare to support their country's athletes who happen to be other than the Russians? Like you branded people «Russo phobes» on this forum if they supported Ukraine's stance and view of things on the conflict or your own (Russian) people who dared to oppose the course of putinism? You did a lot of that here on this forum you know. Now you found a «better toy» — trolling those who don't support the Russian figure skating team. Well… It is your form of «patriotism» I suppose, it is funny.
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No, competition is when skaters compete. Some gets 7/10, some get 9/10 and even 10/10. And suddenly fans of those who get 7/10 (like Kaori Sakomoto who is fresh from juniors this season) start bitching that her skating skills are way better than the Russians who got 9−10. Sometimes people try to promote thier faves by comparing them to leaders (and bashing leaders).
Seriously, I thought it wasn't that difficult (especially after literal explanation and the example).
Now about my funny patirotism, well, i'm more Eteri fan here, because I think RuFed is most stupid fed among big feds (probably, most corrupted). I can tell you more if you think it will be interesting (I don't think so).
Just one example. This girl got spot in team despite the fact that there are at least 6 skaters who are better than her (and they stayed at home, while she went to worlds both as junior and later as senior and bombed there)


Btw, didn't vote for Putin this time too (never voted for him). Despite all the stuff you threw at me. I'm just above that.
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00:10 23.05.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> I looked at the pictures you posted in the «Humour» thread — they are even more boring than the discussions here to be honest as = blunt propaganda, but hey, we put up with you posting them here, don't we?
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Sure, all blatant propaganda https://www.politforums.net/redir/ukraine/142465...

Btw, I didn't post some jokes about royal wedding just not to hurt your feelings
like this one
https://twitter.com/crimesofbrits/status/9975355...
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00:21 23.05.2018
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> dared to oppose the course of putinism
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I did alot? I think I did nothing compared to what Convention and Glory to Ukrane did on this forum to help Putin.
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00:22 23.05.2018
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> No, competition is when skaters compete. Some gets 7/10, some get 9/10 and even 10/10. And suddenly fans of those who get 7/10 (like Kaori Sakomoto who is fresh from juniors this season) start bitching that her skating skills are way better than the Russians who got 9−10.
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Isn't that natural? For people to be bitter about the results if those they supported didn't win? It's human nature. We here call it «sour grapes». Let them start bitching. So?
Grin (25771) wrote in reply to post:
> Now about my funny patirotism, well, i'm more Eteri fan here, because I think RuFed is most stupid fed among big feds (probably, most corrupted). I can tell you more if you think it will be interesting (I don't think so).
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Eteri is the trainer, right? I am not as deep into those things as you are, I never followed figure skating, I told you that. Your videos don't mean a lot to me in that sense, neither do your explanations. You are better off on the figure skating forum trying to prove your point, honestly — as I am not knowledgeable on the subject at all. I can just provide a general opinion. If you can criticize your own team and their coaches and organizers and such and want more from them — then good on you, that's the right attitude.
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> Btw, didn't vote for Putin this time too (never voted for him). Despite all the stuff you threw at me. I'm just above that.
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What have I ever thrown at you? You maybe never voted for Putin, but you heavily promoted putinism as a culture and mentality on this forum — with your stupid pictures, your posts, your criticisms and your trolling and dirty blunt insults to people who just had a different viewpoint and you know that. I told you at one point you were «a bit «affected by your propaganda (by «a bit» I actually meant a lot, that's just English sarcasm for you), you probably thought you were «protecting Mother Russia» or something like that, it's not a problem. You don't vote for Putin — well, does anyone in Russia care about people who don't vote for Putin? Whether one votes for Putin in Russia or not — it' s unfortunately immaterial, as Putin gets elected with huge percentages anyway — like in any dictatorship state. That's Russia for you, my friend. And don't get angry at me — I have nothing to do with that.
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00:25 23.05.2018
Redhead (Expat) wrote in reply to post:
> Isn't that natural? For people to be bitter about the results if those they supported didn't win? It's human nature. We here call it «sour grapes». Let them start bitching. So?
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Of course they have the right to do it. But in that case «they are asking for it», don't you think so?)
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00:30 23.05.2018
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> "protecting Mother Russia"
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Putin dosen't mean Russia for me. As I've said before, in 2011 I had some views similar to Convention. But as the time go by we learn more. I've learnt more about the opposition, western politicians. And I don't thing they are better than Putin.
For example, as for me Churchil is 100 time more evil than Putin
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00:36 23.05.2018
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> but you heavily promoted putinism
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If I indicate that there is a serious problen in western politics (or any Ukraninan problem), do I promote putinism? I think not.
Of course you can say I should mind my own business. But Russians should learn from what has happened in Ukraine, don't you think?
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