> BlueJay (BlueJay) wrote (a) in response to message: > > It's this rate that will spur the US economy, especially the import / export side of the economy. >> http: //www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/canada-trump-t ax …> ig911 (ig911) wrote (a) in response to the message:
>>>> Poor people with an income of $ 40,000 a year, taxes do not pay and they will return money by 1% more. >> This money is a concrete reality. It is necessary to live today, as much can change. In addition, power in the United States is replaced and is responsible for their mistakes. Mr. Trump just does not go to the second term, that's all. >> >>> ig911 (ig911) wrote (a) in response to the message: >>>>> Half of the large American corporations (such as Boeing) do not pay taxes at all due to loopholes in the write-offs. >>>>> All economists said that these are additional money for the rich. >>>>> >>> Let's see, for each economist, there is another economist with his forecasts. Attempts to avoid paying taxes are everywhere, from business to individuals. Nobody likes to pay taxes. However, this does not change the fact that taxes on medium-sized business are higher in the United States than in Canada. Usually it is believed that if you help small and medium-sized businesses, allow them to pay less taxes, this will stimulate the expansion of production and the hiring of workers, which will lead to increased workplaces. economic growth. In any case, according to the calculations of Bloomberg economists, Americans will receive a salary in the new year as a gift, see the figures at the end of the article: >>>>> >>> Family income $ 300,000 per year, the tax will decrease by ~ 7% >>>>> >>> Family income $ 100,000 per year, the tax will decrease by ~ 3% >>>>
>>> I told you about the fact that they canceled the write-off of local taxes.
>>> We have 12−15%, 45k — with 300K. >>> This we had the main article written off, without it it is now impossible to make other write-offs (itemized deductions). They have doubled the standard deductions, but we are still a loser. >>>
>From a Canadian perpestive to the individual tax rate is less important (sorry) then the business rate.
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>Trump and the Republicans have changed the average combined federal / state business rate from 39.1% to an average of 26%.
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>. I'm in the province.
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> > > > > > I do not understand your logic.
> What is more important? Official tax rate bracket, or what percentage you actually pay after including all write-offs? > > If Warren Buffett says that he pays less taxes (in terms of percentage) than his secretary does, it does not mean anything to you?
Well first of all I was talking about business tax rates, not personal rates… Buffet was specifically referring to personal when talking about his and his secretary’s taxes.
Net taxes are like fingerprints, unique to the individual. Every person would have a different story or viewpoint on the effect on them.
It’s a better discussion to look at rate bracket when looking at the big picture.
19:20 23.12.2017
BlueJay (BlueJay) писал (а) в ответ на :
> It's a better discussion to look at rate bracket when looking at the big picture.
" The report, from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy, says 18 of America’s biggest corporations paid zero federal income tax from 2008 to 2015.
General Electric Co., International Paper Co., Priceline Group, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. were among the companies that the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy says had no net tax liability at all over the period. "
> BlueJay (BlueJay) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение:
>> It's a better discussion to look at rate bracket when looking at the big picture.
> > > " > The report, from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy, says 18 of America’s biggest corporations paid zero federal income tax from 2008 to 2015.
> > General Electric Co., International Paper Co., Priceline Group, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. were among the companies that the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy says had no net tax liability at all over the period. > "
Just curious, does the report mention the other millions of US corporations? After all the US did collect a trillion dollars in business taxes.
>> BlueJay (BlueJay) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение:
>>> It's a better discussion to look at rate bracket when looking at the big picture.
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>> >> " >> The report, from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy, says 18 of America’s biggest corporations paid zero federal income tax from 2008 to 2015.
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>> General Electric Co., International Paper Co., Priceline Group, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. were among the companies that the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy says had no net tax liability at all over the period. >> "
> > Just curious, does the report mention the other millions of US corporations? After all the US did collect a trillion dollars in business taxes.
You see, your problem is that you are trying to defend something that was done without public discussion, without input from working groups of industry professionals, without even a chance for senators to read a full version of Trump's Tax Law. So, the whole thing is rather stupid, and of cause, stupidity — is hard to defend.
>>> " >>> The report, from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy, says 18 of America’s biggest corporations paid zero federal income tax from 2008 to 2015.
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>>> General Electric Co., International Paper Co., Priceline Group, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. were among the companies that the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy says had no net tax liability at all over the period. >>> "
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>> Just curious, does the report mention the other millions of US corporations? After all the US did collect a trillion dollars in business taxes.
> > You see, your problem is that you are trying to defend something that was done without public discussion, without input from working groups of industry professionals, without even a chance for senators to read a full version of Trump's Tax Law. > So, the whole thing is rather stupid, and of cause, stupidity — is hard to defend.
No public discussion? Maybe you missed that election last November?
Just under 50% of voters voted for Trump and this style of tax bill was central to his platform.
>>>> >>>> " >>>> The report, from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy, says 18 of America’s biggest corporations paid zero federal income tax from 2008 to 2015. >>> >>>> >>>> General Electric Co., International Paper Co., Priceline Group, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. were among the companies that the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy says had no net tax liability at all over the period.
>>>> " >>>
>>> Just curious, does the report mention the other millions of US corporations? After all the US did collect a trillion dollars in business taxes.
>> >> You see, your problem is that you are trying to defend something that was done without public discussion, without input from working groups of industry professionals, without even a chance for senators to read a full version of Trump's Tax Law. >> So, the whole thing is rather stupid, and of cause, stupidity — is hard to defend.
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> No public discussion? Maybe you missed that election last November? > > Just under 50% of voters voted for Trump and this style of tax bill was central to his platform.
People vote for Putin as well. A lot of people can't find their place in technological revolution, they are desperate and scared. But what it has to do with a Tax Law pushed through in record time purely for lobbies interests?
>>> BlueJay (BlueJay) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение: >>>> >>>> иг911 (ig911) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение: >>>>> BlueJay (BlueJay) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение: >>>>>> It's a better discussion to look at rate bracket when looking at the big picture. >>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>>> " >>>>> The report, from the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy, says 18 of America’s biggest corporations paid zero federal income tax from 2008 to 2015.
>>>>> >>>>> General Electric Co., International Paper Co., Priceline Group, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. were among the companies that the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy says had no net tax liability at all over the period. >>>>> " >>>> >>>> Just curious, does the report mention the other millions of US corporations? After all the US did collect a trillion dollars in business taxes.
>>> >>> You see, your problem is that you are trying to defend something that was done without public discussion, without input from working groups of industry professionals, without even a chance for senators to read a full version of Trump's Tax Law. >>> So, the whole thing is rather stupid, and of cause, stupidity — is hard to defend.
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>> No public discussion? Maybe you missed that election last November? >>
>> Just under 50% of voters voted for Trump and this style of tax bill was central to his platform.
> > People vote for Putin as well. A lot of people can't find their place in technological revolution, they are desperate and scared. > But what it has to do with a Tax Law pushed through in record time purely for lobbies interests?
Trump promised lower taxes, Republicans delivered. If people didn’t want what Trump promised they shouldn’t have voted for him and Republicans.
The system is simple, if you elect a certain candidate/party you are voting to allow them to govern. Trump/Republicans are an odd group… but they are clearly pro-business and pro-capitalistism. No one should be surprised.
They have a right to implement their agenda. It’s the way the system works. CNN and others whining about speed and lack of consultation clearly have forgotten how the Obama administration passed their health care laws.
I’m looking forward to the reaction of Canadian governments to the reductions of business taxes south of the border.
01:36 24.12.2017
BlueJay (BlueJay) wrote in reply to :
> It's the way the system works. CNN and others whining about speed and lack of consultation clearly have forgotten how the Obama administration passed their health care laws.
I still don't get you. It feels like you are talking — blind. There is nothing about Trump as «the way the system works». All possible norms and previous precedents are broken. Any kind of professional approach or common sense thrown out of the window. Obama care — took more than a year of discussions, hundreds working groups, input and research from the industry. With this Tax Bill no one had a chance to provide any input, a lot of very big items were included just one day before voting. If for you this is normal, then for you anything else is also normal.
08:21 24.12.2017
Sorry if I sound rude. If I would be in your place, I would say: «Yes, I know. Trump is unconventional president. And he might not be ready for this job. But I still think that he is trying to do good, and expect something interesting coming out from his presidency. »
18:29 24.12.2017
иг911 (ig911) писал (а) в ответ на :
> Sorry if I sound rude. > If I would be in your place, I would say: > "Yes, I know. Trump is unconventional president. And he might not be ready for this job. But I still think that he is trying to do good, and expect something interesting coming out from his presidency. "
No problem, actually that’s very close to what I think. While on social and environmental issues I do not agree with him, I fully understand the position he takes on his Southern border and agree with his general ideas on trade… maybe not the specifics (ie NAFTA) or the way he presents his ideas (nasty attacks) but I understand his and other Americans frustrations.
Have a great Christmas!!!
21:40 24.12.2017
Merry Christmas!
В этом году свет победил темноту и Иерусалим был официально признан столицей Израиля. Надеюсь, что победа света продолжится и в следующем году. Украина освободит свою землю от оккупантов и восстановится мир.
Так уж принято, что Рождество всегда ассоциируется с надеждой, радостью, любовью и миром. Именно в Рождество мы с особой остротой чувствуем благодарность за те простые радости, которые даёт нам жизнь — наши семьи, любимые и близкие нам люди, возможность изменить в лучшую сторону чью-то жизнь, подарить радость нуждающимся в беде. С приближающимися праздниками, каких бы традиций вы не придерживались, пусть свет продолжает светить вам, побеждая темноту милосердием и добротой. Счастливого Рождества!
> В этом году свет победил темноту и Иерусалим был официально признан столицей Израиля. Надеюсь, что победа света продолжится и в следующем году. Украина освободит свою землю от оккупантов и восстановится мир. > > Так уж принято, что Рождество всегда ассоциируется с надеждой, радостью, любовью и миром. Именно в Рождество мы с особой остротой чувствуем благодарность за те простые радости, которые даёт нам жизнь — наши семьи, любимые и близкие нам люди, возможность изменить в лучшую сторону чью-то жизнь, подарить радость нуждающимся в беде. С приближающимися праздниками, каких бы традиций вы не придерживались, пусть свет продолжает светить вам, побеждая темноту милосердием и добротой. Счастливого Рождества!
Привет друзья из Корка — флаг у меня на ирландский не поменяется, т к наш провайдер - Network 3 displays British flag only, unless one uses Wifi which we are not at the moment. Наш Christmas в этом году в Ирландии — очень насыщенный — очень и очень религиозный Кристмас — вчера мы attended the Catholic midnight mass. Позавчера мы ездили с нашими и Джозефиновскими детьми (my hubby's cousin) на другую ферму — открытую, где были Santo's Grotto like you wouldn't believe — I took the video, will download later. This years Christmas is amazing — постоянно в семейном кругу — we are flying out back to London tomorrow. I love you all. Merry Christmas guys.
Сивилла и Блю Джей — Merry Christmas to you two.
00:42 26.12.2017
Традиционное рождественское обращение Королевы Великобритании. Для Елизаветы II это 60-й рождественский телеэфир.
«Мы думаем о наших домах как о местах тепла, уюта и любви. Эта простая тяга к дому — вне времени.»
00:53 26.12.2017
..и пусть это утро для пе. русофобов и либералов — будет последним рождеством)) I wish and I will)
> Сивилла (forecast) писал (а) в ответ на сообщение:
>> Merry Christmas! >>
>
>> В этом году свет победил темноту и Иерусалим был официально признан столицей Израиля. Надеюсь, что победа света продолжится и в следующем году. Украина освободит свою землю от оккупантов и восстановится мир. >> >> Так уж принято, что Рождество всегда ассоциируется с надеждой, радостью, любовью и миром. Именно в Рождество мы с особой остротой чувствуем благодарность за те простые радости, которые даёт нам жизнь — наши семьи, любимые и близкие нам люди, возможность изменить в лучшую сторону чью-то жизнь, подарить радость нуждающимся в беде. С приближающимися праздниками, каких бы традиций вы не придерживались, пусть свет продолжает светить вам, побеждая темноту милосердием и добротой. Счастливого Рождества!
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> Привет друзья из Корка — флаг у меня на ирландский не поменяется, т к наш провайдер — Network 3 displays British flag only, unless one uses Wifi which we are not at the moment. Наш Christmas в этом году в Ирландии — очень насыщенный — очень и очень религиозный Кристмас — вчера мы attended the Catholic midnight mass. Позавчера мы ездили с нашими и Джозефиновскими детьми (my hubby's cousin) на другую ферму — открытую, где были Santo's Grotto like you wouldn't believe — I took the video, will download later. This years Christmas is amazing — постоянно в семейном кругу — we are flying out back to London tomorrow. I love you all. Merry Christmas guys. > > Сивилла и Блю Джей — Merry Christmas to you two.
Merry Christmas to you also!
I’m glad that you are having a nice Christmas with your family.
